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You should remove the grid and hang the light right from the top man. If thats not possible its all good, but who knows, maybe your getting some bad refraction / reflection happening keeping some precious light away from your ladies. It all counts, right? -pf-

Yeah its nuts huh! Crazy stuff! Love that unit! So much! Got some mad growth goin on. Cant wait to see your updates man! Keep that baby right on top of your ladies, the difference between a few inches is dramatic. Keep it as close as possible with as much of your coverage as you need. You area...

How about a link KenWood? I don't see anything under this "new led".... Link??? Something? -pf-

I reccomend prosource ufo's, as I have not been burned by this company. They have a good product, even if the price is a little on the higher end, you for sure get your money's worth. Thats my two cents. Look em up, illuminator UFOs. they have both a 90W and a 180W which is what I have used and...

Dude, look at how much growth in such little time!!!!! LOOKIN SWEET!!!!

Can't we all just get along...I too wanted to see the end results of things here. Somebody needs to get some tests going, as mentioned, so it can be proved by others as well. We all seek results, but we all should also keep track of why we are here. I hope at least we can see some results, or...

I cant seem to find it, but would like to see it... I don't mean that sarcastic either. -pf-

Don't believe what anybody says, and go with what you feel is right. Trial and error my friend. That is the only tried and true way. -pf-

So where are these magical LED's you claim? Bring forth my friend. -pf-

Yo Yo, did some shit in hopes of saving the ladies. Temps been getting in the mid-60's...that is going to slow them bitches down. (the mites that is). In the mean time, warfare is taking place to eliminate them. Though, signs of life are none at this point. They only have to last 2 more...

I think there are higher-end, better quality products out there, but I have never used a good ol e-bay unit. So i dunno man. THere are lots of threads out there with the 90W ufos, just don't get caught up in the hype, and remember, you gotta keep those babies real close to your ladies. I am all...

That Jumbo is going to blow you away bro, for sure. Make sure your soil is drying evenly and at a decent rate of speed. Don't want em to get too soggy and sit in it and rot. :P I sure you already know that, but hey, sometimes we all can use a reminder. :-) How is things going on that note??? -pf-

Guess what? I got the mites..... That explains it eh?....

Guess what bro...got the mites all up in here.... DAAAMNNNNN...... But yoour shit turned out good. I don't think i can salvage anything near that. but that was not under the 180...that was the other...330 other brand. Wish me luck bro...glad you salvaged most of yours! -pf-

Hey man, everything ok?????? Long time no see from you... -pf-

I would look into the Prosource Jumbo Ufo, but thats me... or even the 90W. it seemed to have rock for others... at least you know you have some quality behind your product. That an be proved.

No link man...when it comes up everybody will know.... other tests are in progress, they are just not far enough along to provide results. Everybody needs to give it time. Allow people to answer questions, and allow questions to be asked. This is how we all learn. I would like to see other...

THings are looking sweet bro. Stay in touch... -pf-

I know this is your thread and whatnot, but I am not sure you can honestly say they work better than any other LED grow light in the world. Just because you have not seen results with your own eyes from LED's other than yours. Not tryin to cause a rukus, but thats a bold statement.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TCurtiss again. haha guess I need to spread some love...