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No problem at all. FWIW, that site I linked doesn't appear to be selling anything outright, but yeah, the companies that sell the systems are in it to make money after all. Still, worth looking into at least. It'll always require more than what they say and nothing is every as easy as they...

So working at a collective isn't what it appears to be on the surface? Sounds more and more like just working for Wal-Mart.

...and yet we want the government to run it for us? Yeah, its crazy. Anywho, what were we discussing? :)

There are 3 separate ways to make it. You don't have to use methanol. Supposedly, it isn't hard to get the supplies you need. May have to mail order them of course. I've read about getting the oil and they say it is in fact hard to get from corporate places or chains. And yeah, as more...

Ah, so you know then. I used to be on the inside too, glad I'm not anymore.

There will be an awful lot of "getting back to basics." MRI's don't run for free. They're 10k a pop upwards.

Cool chart I found that shows the whole chemical process: http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Production.PDF

Interesting. I can only imagine the commercials you would see on TV if that happened. Budweiser might have some serious competition. But then, cannabis commercials wouldn't have to gloss over so many negatives.

We might when the whole system collapses and a paradigm shift is necessary. Who knows? Medicine has done a LOT of good the past 30 years. It has been at a steep price though.

Good read. What was this about?: (2) Any and all commercial advertising of the sales, distribution, and use of marijuana, except for medical marijuana and products that contain less than one percent THC. This provision shall be enforced hereafter by penalties to be set forth by the...

Really? Gotta do some more reading. It's down the road, but why the hell not? You can save THOUSANDS every year by doing it. Of course, your selection on cars is limited. Have to find a good deal on a Jetta, as I'm sure the future wife isn't really interested in driving a F-250 to work.

...well, yeah, what you said. They kind of go together. As long as its not 100% legal, there will always be a premium to pay.

The power of the purse. Only way to fight that is to not buy it. Sucks, but that's how you fight it.

Always more to the story. Sneaky, eh?

Well, from what I read there's a bit more to it than that. It doesn't look like it'll take too much though. Just the startup costs. I'm sure you can make a setup for cheap if you know what you're doing. I'd lean more toward a kit. You can't beat $1 a gallon though.

Wouldn't be much of a guess. I have a future father in law that is well prepared. My goal now is to follow his lead and hope I can be ready. Problem is, I'm almost 30, transitioning careers, and living paycheck to paycheck. One day at a time though. Ill definately be bunkered with him.

What's the story? I hope we all dream on creating our own strain one day, how cool could that be?

Well said. No, I'm afraid its gonna be ugly. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Wish I had planned better 10 years ago.

Congrats man. I'm getting married in the fall and I still don't know why she loves me. It'll always be a mystery. Best of luck to your upcoming marriage.

http://evolutionbiodieselkits.com/ Anyone ever tried this yet? Thinking about trying this down the road. Seems it would pay for itself after one year. With the constant concern over the price of oil, I'd like to try and run 100% biodiesel or as its known, B100. Any thoughts/experiences?