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Hey I appreciate it guys! after a few more hours of tinkering and researching the whole top/FIM thing, I think we got this. **bullshit** no but really all advice was taken with a handful of salt and, I will keep this post updated if anyone gives a shit lol.

damn. well If I wasnt such a noob I would have flipped the cage up on its side

This is for experience and fun, nothing professional. just trying to make it work. Is there something wrong with flowering at 10 inches for a bullshit CFL grow? It will still bud, right? even if i flower at 12, these are cfls. its NOT going to explode like an HPS flower, right?

I hear ya'll about the height thing though man.

Ive decide to switch to 6 inch wide by 5 inches tall, so 30- 5 = 25- 5+/- for lights at top = 20 inches 20inches of free space, start flower at 10inches? I think im going to try what tusseltussel said about topping them. making them bushier.

so just so I'm clear: veg to 5th, top just at the 2nd. Then I top the two that come out of the FIRST top ***after THEY are how many nodes long?***

sounds good. not that I know much I just hope you know what your telling me is worry proof.

sounds interesting! so veg to 2 nodes, then top, and top those four that come out. how long does that process take? Do you have any picture examples?

If my eight is 28 inches, that should be tall enough to switch to flower at about 5-8 inches/4 nodes, right? We plan on making a SOG canopy

Took me a while to get it but LOL.

Yeah should I start with the smaller 6" pot?

Its my buddies seeds. We have no clue lol. So do you think I should grow them in 6" pots instead of half gallon pots?? and we are going to rig an exhaust with some tubing and a very powerful fan, couple oscilators on the inside

yeah but this way we can grow all of the seeds he has. I do see what your saying though.

Yo yo yo new to growing, not new to life, so don't be a dick. My buddy and I took a spare dog cage... H: 30.50 in D: 28.25 in W: 43 in ... and wrapped the entire inside of the frame with Reflectix. (Yeah I know mylar is better but Ive grown with it before and loved it.) Then we zip-tied the...

Yo yo yo new to growing, not new to life, so don't be a dick. My buddy and I took a spare dog cage... H: 30.50 in D: 28.25 in W: 43 in ... and wrapped the entire inside of the frame with Reflectix. (Yeah I know mylar is better but Ive grown with it before and loved it.) Then we zip-tied the...