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Nope, it's clear to me that is a light problem... If light is unable to reach certain places its because something you are doing is not doing what the sun does outdoors...I'm not a perfectionist... I know how silly fellas get with this... We are growing pot.. Yes, it's my first grow but I wasn't...

Love the idea... Change it to defoliation

This thing with mr. Diaz is looking more like trying to prove a point... I'm out of here lol

Of course is lighting... I'm sure that having an stationary light system can't provide all the angles and stuff, plus why not tucking or training instead of removal? Or a light mover will work as well... Problem is light coming from one direction and fan leaves setting up to get as much light as...

I have nothing against that.. I mean ou gotta do what you gotta do to keep the plant healthy.... The main thing is the whoe idea behind this thread which is yielding... People should forget about that and focus on growing healthy plants.... I got a fan going on all the time providing air all...

Next grow I'm try to increase nitrogen levels and see if there is any difference... Even though I'm just coming to just get more lights/more grows at the same time... This high yield shit is getting ridiculous...

I think it will always go back to not enough light for the quantity you are trying to get... It's either go outdoor or get more lights...I don't see a benefit on defoliation if the plant is healthy... Removing upper fan leaves have to affect the bud outcome cuz of all stuff stored in it... I...

nice little read... Well tomorrow is another day... Btw I'm such an air head.... A couple of pages ago they were talking about it nvm....

by phytocromes are sexy man.... Hmmm no I'm referring o the chemical response lower leaves have when they only receive red and f red wavelength... For some reason I'm associating them to flowering and bud development... I'll have to read some... Or probably when ub shows up again he'll link...

im trying to find the link were they explain how red and far red affect photo receptors that are link with fruit and flowering... I think that was the idea behind hps lights here we go http://www.yale.edu/denglab/paper/Sullivan2003.pdf

Hmmmm red and fred are transmitted thru leaves.... There are some studies that states that nitrogen plays an important role in transmittance... The more nitrogen: the more transmittance... Maybe your leaves where not in optimal condition so more reflectance happened...

I'm telling you UB does nothing but spoil people here man... More spoiling less talking plezzzzz

I have seen very talented people just like ub through out my life... So I just ignore the negative and learn as much as possible

I tuck them a lot in between and under other bud sites.... Bottom buds get light but I super cropped my plants fully at least 6 times so whatever didn't came up to the top... I know that is asking the genetics too much with the amount of light I'm giving them..

Hopefully everything ends good.... Let me know how things go for you... What you growing..

This is my very first grow... No pruning done except for one with four "main" colas.... I have a total of maybe 25 upper shoots that range from 3 to 7 nodes within a 3 to 4 inch height.... 3 plants... 600w hps.... White widow Dutch passion... Super cropping... What else.. 22 days flowering...

You bet man,... Hahaha...

No I didn't put yellowing upper/middle/whatever leaves in flowering with no proper nitrogen feeding... Forgot to make a complete and understandable sentence like always... Talking to yourself while typing doesn't get you too far let me tell you that... It was just an example of the importance of...

Then he "survives"... I was just being silly

Or maybe I'm being fallacious again..... Happens to me all the time so please let me know... I love being enlighten by other... Saves me time and effort...