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Compact Flurencents are small and make no heat(reasonably none anyway). They range from 10-50watts and produce much lumens then those bigger flurencents. White surfact is good, Fans are good, maybe have two (one in, one out)

from what i read from someone here - theres no difference in weening them off the light then going straight 24/0 to 12/12. what does the perlite give the soil?

yeah true, but anyway whats causing the leaves curling upwards?

morp, yeah i know, i even have a charger of something here, and had it setup for a day, which taught me my first lesson, turn things of before you change when working on setup. one broken fan later and cut thumb, i know realise not to be lazy and turn things off :)

ok well i went and got a 2nd cfl, but i think its giving too much heat(just too much for too little area), pics attached - see how the leaves are starting to invert? does this mean their too hot? too dry? see the diff between day 11 and day 12 its hard to see with the pic, but 12 - hte out edge...

except little boys bleed alot more edit: day 9 pics

update, also i went and picked up a timer for in a few weeks time

alright i took your guys advice and picked up a 20w cfl, i didn't realise they were so cheap like $5 each from the supermarket, and i see what you mean - its hard to work in the case with the light on, as its too bright :) i'll post some pics up tomorrow how long till i should be cutting the...

So my parents didn't want me growing at my house, so i needed a way to hide them and then transport them when they grow big enough descretly. Then i thought whats an easy way to have light and suffiecent air flow/temp conditions. A computer case! Grabbed a shitty old computer case from school...

My first post so dont make too much fun. How close would you recomomend to plant seeds next to each other. say i have a container which is 40cm's long, 20cm wide, and 20cm deep. Also when do they need to moved is there a general rule eg If their xxcm high then their roots are xxcm deep and...