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yup there are all good

10 thousand lumens per plant? are you serious

will you give us a dry weight ect????? like a pic on scale to prove some of these people that dont believe

yeh future will be led because of less energy usage, but im pretty sure cfls still penetrate better than led volksgarden : http://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/148946-first-volksgarden-grow.html

near the bottom of the box if you look at the pics, i dont think that matters to much as long as the spray hits the bottom of the stems

hey dude thanks for the info, i dont know if you have seen them, volksgardens it is a rotary growing machine, i have always used envirolites, and really want to stick to them, because everything i heard about hps is that they run at ridiculously high temps, anyway this guy using on of these...

right i know that the more lumens per sq ft for you plants are good.... but if you increase the amount of plants in that square foot do you need to increase the amount of light(lumens) in that area to increase yield. also its there a certain amount of light that you need to give a plant...

hey have u started building any of it yet any pics?

right well i hope your correct, i think its time to by a 600w hps!

yep come on max... stop slacking lol jkz

but the thing is they are different types of light, i mean if you had 600w of leds you wouldnt get much heat????

so i take it i should stick with the cfls thanks 'TeaTreeoil' n btw userfriendly maybe if you ever tried an envirolite you would see the heat difference, and i do know what im talking about because heat is a big factor for me, less heat less chance of getting caught as i see it, alot of...

envirolites do give off some heat but you can easily put your hand on the glass of a cfl and not burn yourself would you say this is the same with a hps, i would like to try out hps because everyone says they yield more, but heat is a big factor

so what would yield more 3 plants with 1 200w envirolite each or 3 plants sharing a 600w hps

have you ever used envirolites?

it all weights the same .... is that weight of you saying that they will both yield the same but hps buds are more dense?

hm i would like to see the difference i use envirolite 200w clfs, and would love to see the difference in yeild. to be honest even envirolites get hot wen they are enclosed, so it must be insane with a hps.

i vegged one for 2-3 months its about 2 ft high, it is a hard strain to grow and does turn yellow if it gets to many nutrients

hey guys just wondering which would give more heat a 600w hps or 3 of the 200w envirolites?

its got to be atleast another 3 -5 weeks, those buds are gona be amazing