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well, the framers assumed that the government would be ran by power hungry fucking asshole politician cock gobblers, which is why they created the constitution in the first place.. to protect the citizens from power, which corrupted every other government in the history of the human race.. and...

well it has more direct light as stated earlier, and to gain maximum efficiency, you will want the tops of the bottom plants to overlap with the bottoms of the top plants, and since they seem a tad larger than the ones on the bottom, and have better and more direct light, they will grow bigger...

well the ones on the top rack are going to get bigger than those on the bottom, or at least thats what it looks like from the pics.. i would suggest trying to move those buckets up a little bit, so that you dont have to veg as long.. it could be as easy as getting some 2x4's and cinder blocks...

too bad our forefathers didnt have the sight to put in protections on ammo too in the constitution.. maybe it woulda slowed these fucking asshole politician cock gobblers down

looks awesome bro, do you have a seperate veg area? you will probably need to veg those plants in the ebb n flow at the bottom for a couple months at least to take advantage of that vertical space. looks great man!

this isnt a house is it?

im def. on board with the water cooling idea.. i think you could use some type of steel wool or brillo type material to help conduct the heat better. it would reduce the airflow however.. and i dont know how you could get it in bulk you would need.

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/gun-collection.shtml i think this is what max was talking about.. although it did not belong to heston himself

see they already have a plant on that floor model LOL but 500 bux gimmie a break.. i could build a system that would rotate 50 plants for less than that.. and jig, thats a very good observation, and you would definitely want to prune them or tie em up.. but for BC's needs it would be great...

i think it would be easy too.. i was thinking an 8ft metal shaft with grommets for the belts at each level, have a slow rotating motor at the bottom, and then each level could have a lazy susan (u know the spinning things they put on large tables to pass food around) and just cut grooves in each...

you can grow 10lbs of bud with 4-5k watts in a sog style, every 2 months

yes i will be going completely flat.. 3x6 ebb n flo tables, 1200 watts and 72 plants per table.. i will however build a small scale vert to test some ideas, and use a 400 or 600. and i think a vertical veg would be a great idea.. i had actually had thoughts about using a belt and pulley system...

awww those were such a tease!! LOL nice work though

its all good he sent me a pm and apologized

cant wait to see it up n running, keep it up vegas

LOL i been growing for over 4 years, exposed to it for much longer, assisted many many people in starting, and setting up grows, as well as answered a lot of questions on these boards, and tried to document my experiences with mary jane in an attempt to expand knowledge... what have you done...

well i have a new vertical concept that i want to try out, so i will probably build one on a smaller scale and tweak it.. i want to build it out of pvc pipe and run aero misters.. also totally enclosed, but so all 4 sides of the bulb have plants, as opposed to 3 sides. however, these verticals...

thanks fellas,and i want to make it clear i didnt chop em because the rot took over, i chopped em because i really dont feel like messing with the hassle (anyone who has battled root rot knows what im talking about) i just wanna get to my larger place where i can start fresh and do it for half...

no i know, there are plenty of people who are grateful, but i was just pissed cuz here i am, trying to show people the perks and downfalls of vertical growing, trying to help out and answer questions (i used to be there, and still do ask questions in some areas), especially this joker who has...

people like this make me not want to help anyone... gets his panties all in a wad cuz we told him to use google LOL