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and i still have the cfls with the hps too

um i just put the 250watt in...and its about a foot from the tops...befor they were under just the cfls and they were about 4 5 inches away im trying to get the plants to stretch there on there 7th going on 8 for the big indica and shes only 7 inches btw i can keep veging after pre flowers...

btw +rep to ya for helping i dont think its the 1st time you have ether

illll do that sir...andi use reverse osmosis filterd water atm

nope i dont...lol good i hope so cuz they ante cheep!

lol alrighty i backed them off just now actully

and yes i did!

the new groth is twisting and looks almost "shriveld" i would put it.....

never* have used nutes

ah! too bad im using no nutes and i flushed a week ago

yea...no replies ....and i cant test my water yet..i dont drive and the hydro store is one long ass walk .....in the snow...lol but yea its been a week since i flushed do you think there not getting enough food? i dont use any nutes and when i flushed it got worse :/

under feed maybe??

ok i use FFOF 3 plants under 8 6500k 23watt cfls and a 250watt hps....i resently flushed thought there was a ph prob...but shes only getting worse ...ideas? fixes?

ok lime...or anyone i need help :( well lime i flushed like ya said but its getting worse....i just found out shes a girl! :( and i girl i dont wana louse tho! whatcha thinks wrong and how to fix???:cry::cry::cry::cry:

so uhhh...how about them packers?

idc! im still keeping that lol

take that punk!

ops ...i put 2 down haha

heyyy guys well i switched up my lights and such...heres some pics ...and i will hopfully be switching out the bulb to a mh..its a 250watt hps at the moment