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Wow 5 days in an RR cube, not bad at all. 9 days is my usual with about 1in roots out the bottom. i layer the bottom of a heated propagator with perlite and sit the cubes in that with a small layer of water on the bottom, they seem to love it :) Just cut a batch there as I am tired of waitng...

just had a look there, still LOTS (about 70%) of clones have nothing happening :( so much for bubble cloning being faster than using grow cubes :( I rooted this strain from same mother in root riot cubes in about 9 days last time i tried with 90% success rate :(

I think im going to have to do a batch of clones in cubes aswell as my bubble cloner is actually taking longer than it did with me using root riot cubes :(

You using a bubble cloner or rockwool cubes?

how lng does it take you to get roots?

cant buy that in my county and purified water here is not that cheap for a case.

you can also use the lucas formula with his top up calculator formula, seems to work for a lot of people including myself.

Ive heard some people saying you should change the water every week in a bubble cloner and some say you dont need to change the water at all until they get roots. Should I be thinking about changing the water?

I literally dont have a camera and my phone camera is total shit you wouldnt be able to see anything clearly :) I have another air pump here that is a 120w air pump with 12 outlets, but Im afraid if i use it in such small containers it would literally tear any growth on the stems as I use it...

There is plenty of bubbles though and the whole bottom of the lid is soaked and all cuttings are dripping so I think the air pump can handle it as the cloner with the least powerful air pump is the one that is rooting faster, ive 2x 12" air stones in each cloner,

ok its the 11th day since I started it, in one of the cloners im seeing about 30% of the clones with small white root nubs so something is happening there. In the other about 5% have bumps on the stem(not white ones). Strange that 1 cloner is doing better than the other and they are pretty...

I highered the light another foot. it is only a 125w equivalent cfl, so its not that bright. but i'll give it a shot.

I did shave off the top layer on the bottom 1/2-1 inch of each clone before putting it in the cloner. Next time I wont use any clonex gel, but will it actually cause any problems if it goes into the cloner?

Well at the moment im letting the water level drop, they are slightly submerged at the moment, in 1-2 days the water will be 1/2-1 inch below the bottom of the stem, however in my last run a few months ago, this also did nothing.

From reading around it seems the water isnt that important as some people get great results in non-ph'd water, some get great results when ph'd to 5.5-6.5, so im pretty sure the water i have is ok, cant seem to figure out what is slowing/stopping the root formation on my clones :(

thats pretty much what ive been doing except the 100+ air temps and 80+ water temps. Also I only check ph about every 3 days as there is very little fluctuation, I checked it today it was 6.2, i adjusted it to 5.8 with 2 drops ph down.

2x 12" air stones in each cloner. The lid is dripping wet inside. it is a container with 3.7 gals water in it and a 106gal/hour dual outlet air pump. Ive been told not to mist them as this feeds them and doesnt force them to gow roots to get food, there is a lot of conflicting info out there...

I have an aquarium heater in the cloners set around 75-80

7 days and still nothing happening, what am I doing wrong ? :(

Well its not really a given as a lot of people suggest plain water only (un-ph'd), hence the thread. I adjusted the water before putting any clones in, so they would have started on about 5.8-6, I would never adjust a clone/plant from 8 to 5.5 ever.