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Donno what you mean - I won one of the comps and my girl was no Beauty Queen :bigjoint:

If enough long timers show back up maybe you can put on a 2023 Editions Solo Cup Comp? :bigjoint:

I thought Timber Rebranded? https://highgrovelighting.com

3500K 80+ cri does work well all around. I Have used it in veg with great results on many plant species :peace:

Obviously laughing at the idea of a company with a past that Mars Hydro has being a "Reputable Brand"

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2x4 Another option as brought to light by @hotrodharley in another thread is the Bestva Bp1000. https://www.bestvaled.com/products/bestva-dimmable-bp-series-led-grow-light-with-samsung-diodes 2 Bp 1000's over a 2x4 would also be a pretty good fit. Here is 4 Bp1000's over a 4x4 and doing quite...

You didn't state if the hps had a glass lens / air cooling or not.....

Would you recommend purchasing those lights?

Have you flowered under that Bestva Light? :peace:

Still holding it over here :peace:

Damn @The Dawg what's up with them leaf tips? :wink:

Bingo, nobody argues that the total amount of Infrared emitted by an hid lamp isn't excessive. But it should be present in sufficient quality to properly heat leaf surfaces. The technology is there in led - its just a monkey see monkey do - peel the $$ from unknowing weed growers paradise still...

Anyone who doesn't believe this applies to plants as well as humans is just silly. That's why I always ask the question of living soil growers - you are optimizing the health and nutrition of the plant through the root zone, why feed them a light diet deficient in wavelengths? :peace:

Sounds logical, just would be tricky to make sure the soil isn't too moist when the plants are young. You would probably want a more aerated mix that basically can't be over watered. Many do agree however that having a bit of a dry back can increase resin production and aroma's so some...

Of course when you quote the guy promoting hydroponic culture. What was the "Soil" composed of? One of these "Study's" even went as far as to mention the soil comparison using miracle-gro :confused:

#2 would also be up for debate in a "Dialed In" soil system. I know - I used to be a hydro only non-belieber myself :oops: It does however take more knowledge and wading through bunch of bro science to get to a proper soil recipe :peace:

Notice the water level in the reservoir is much higher than in the control bucket. Makes it easy to use things such as 55gal drums for reservoirs rather than huge short reservoirs If you could sink the res in the ground or elevate the system there is no need for control buckets :peace:

There was lot of discussion and participation in this thread for non-cannabis plants :peace: https://www.rollitup.org/t/all-cob-users-lettuce-grow-challenge.905662/

Why are you feeding such a high ec? Healthy coco growing for me was always max 1.4ec with multiple feeds per day :peace: