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To get anywhere with leds you're going to need at least 200w. Try to keep all the diodes at least 1w. Cree's are the best I know of

Yeah, I ended up with over 300 w total.It was a small experiment.I'd like to do a bigger led grow, back to the best-hps, but I'm waiting to get rich so that I can get the equiptment I need

Sorry, I meant the 6500k's were good for vegetation

In my opion, for a box the size you're talking about, a 250w w/ hortilux , and a cool tube. An electric ballast would help. As far as the 420w mh, you may want to double check me, but I think without an insane amount of ventilation, it may get a little too toasty.As far as what you've got in...

Nice grow man, I just grew out my last blueberry clones, been puffing the stuff for about 6 months now Excellent first grow

It all comes down to penetration, 1 watt crees seem to be doing an adequate job, but not quite there yet. For those of us, 40 year old adolescents with some capital, with the means would like to see a unit with higher output individual diodes.

Dub rules I hear ya these fuckers are outrageously expensive for the results you get, but I believe it all comes down to the individual growers unique growing conditions, we'll see what happens in a couple years, prices come down etc

right you are joker, making your own led array would be the way to go-check out BOfin's diy led threads on planet skunk

thanx mr niceguy, I'm growing in a 2 by 2 4ft high tent, I'll bet that Proycon, would do nicely in there.Shit, now I have to get a procyon, thanx lol.

Stick with hps, I just did an led grow, over all I wasn't too disappointed, I got the leds direct ,sort of, from the manufacturer in China, bout 200 us a piece, but you can still do much better with hps.

no problem, I would suggest sniping up a ufo on e-bay for like a hundred bucks, if you're interesred. I'm using 3 to supplement my hps, it's that or use em for paper weights.

thanks man, yeah nothing like hid, it was pretty cool to have a purple grow room, alas not yet.

btw, this grow was done with only 1 ufo oops- so thats 1 ufo 40 watts of red led 2 glow panels-45w, the other 2 ufos were added a couple of days later- the 3 clones in the one bucket are G13 durbans, the rockwool clones are dj shorts blueberry- all clones were put into 12, 12 as soon as they...

here are some pics of my most recent led experiment. I know, I know, I'm back to my trusty hortilux hps- nothing can beat it, but this grow was amusing. felt like I was 3 again playing with lite brites. I used 3 660 nm red 90w ufos, the one in the middle has the hid hut satellite system- 8 5w...

I just have to say 7-10 grams?! I dont claim to be some pot god, but you sure do talk alot of shit for someone who obviously dosent have alot of experience.