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That my friend is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I would sarcastically ask you if you had any idea at all how close you would have to be to see the heat generated by an LED, but I'm just not that interested in finding out just how stupid you are. You are either really really really...

You don't know how much I spent of LEDs, yet you say its a bad investment. Now, I could state things as fact, without knowing any information... Let's say, I say GrowTech has AIDS from having butt sex with animals. I haven't seen him screwing sheep or monkeys, but he does seem like the type...

$1800? Someone is selling an $1800 LED setup that's not as good as a $200 HPS? I must have missed that post... DIY LEDs cost about $.70 a watt and each watt of LED light is worth 4 watts of HID. -Loki

Arrid, they say there's a retard in every family and that if you don't think so, it's probably you... Guess what buddy... its you. There may only be shitty LED systems on the market now, but that has nothing to do with LEDs themselves... LEDs are very easy to DIY, so that bull about cost is...

So are you saying you're stupid or a cop? -Loki

My mom's dead asshole. You can see the whole grow here Jack in the Box or Loki's LED Hydro totes... - Cannabis Culture Forums -Loki

I really don't use it any more. My Co2 is around 1600ppm because I'm growing inside, in a room I'm in at least 12 hrs a day... I'm my own Co2 generator... But when I did use it, I filled it with this... $10 gets me 15lbs of Co2... I've never refilled the tank for my grow, but I didn't...

Those LEDs were about $.30 each, in bulk (but barely bulk, 100s) That tote's 5 LED bars pull less than 25 watts. -Loki

Yes, it is. -Loki

No shit... I grow with LEDs, and got pics too! I've got a grow thread going over at CC. Here are some pics... -Loki

Here's a non lanky LED grow for you.... It's a Jack Herer clone... I'm using less than 25watts too. I think people that constantly bash LEDs and insist everyone must use HIDs, are either stupid or cops trying to trick people into growing with something they can detect. -Loki