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LEDs have a long way to go. They could be doing so much more with them. Right now, they're trying to mimick HIDs. I think its mostly because its easier to put 5watt LEDs in a little group and say you have 90/100/whatever-watts, then it is to spread that out so you can get some proper coverage...

I think the question is how much light does 2x36 gal tote need? I think 150w HPS would be the very most you'd want to try and put in there... I use 1 18gal tote, but use LEDs.... Cannabis TV :: Video :: Smoke from all around! If I was going to go HPS, I think I'd use 2 70w bulbs... If it...

I don't think its so much the lights, as it is the growers. Some of those lights were 3 or 4 feet about the tops of the plants. One was just a narrow bar of LEDs, three feet above the canopy... Any real grower notices this right away and can then surmise the rest of their gardening skillz... I'm...

Yup, its a UMPC, Samsung Q1... -Loki

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Its ok, I hear it on every forum. You're not the first person who has no idea or rather the wrong idea about LEDs. You say the avg LED is 2-5k MCD... Mine are 140k MCD, each. You think they're hot? They produce a tiny amount of heat, but...

I have a grow log here with all that info... Jack in the Box or Loki's LED Hydro totes... - Cannabis Culture Forums -Loki

I use the .4 watt LEDs because its the same lumen/watt as a 5 watt and greater LEDs and I can spread the light out without having to move the LEDs away from my plants. The best part about LEDs is they run so cold, you can have them right up against your plants... if you used 5 watt or greater...

Is that that new 'invisible bud'? That plant is friggin huge!! I've never not seen one with such huge buds... GJ mate! Seriously, nice lights dude, but get some mylar... Check out this site for a better wiring plan... http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz -Loki

Yeah, 6 UFOs would be fucked up... That shit has set LEDs back at least 2 years. I use .4 watt LEDs and build them myself. Its not rocket science... There's a link to my log a few posts up. I go into quite a bit of detail... -Loki

wtf are you talking about? I've got about $20 in LEDs in each tote... That's $120. -Loki

I have done my research and have grown with them. I've got a 400 watt HPS packed away in a box, been nearly 4 years now. I can setup 6 LED totes in the space the 400 would use. I think 2 plants @ 4oz each was about as good as the HPS ever did for me. I'll get 2oz out of each tote. And I can...

No, you have to check out the whole grow... That plant is kind of growing sideways... Its like a ScrOG w/o the screen... -Loki

I wish I had more room to grow, so I could be the one who changes your mind. LED lighting is only going to get better, HID will always be the same. There is only one option... -Loki

Much much smaller... I'll get a solid 2 oz from that tote though. LED's are amazing for micro grows... Scaled up and they aren't that much better than HIDs, except for the fact that they last much longer and are cold... -Loki

Fucking dude has a graphic for flushing.... unbelievable... He probably has more than one.... -Loki

You need to find out how they grew and what LEDs they used. The 5mm were barely useable, but the newer .4 watt 10mm LEDs are amazing. They're like 20x the lumens of the older 5mm LEDs... And they run so cold the leaves can grow right around them and even hold them down. Its ok though. Your...

That's less than 25 watts of LEDs... It'll make me a sticky 2 oz... Try doing that with HIDs or even CFLs.... and then you tell me who's settling for 'decent'... CNN? Does that mean you're a Fox fan? Probably a McCain supporter too, huh? Like picking the dinosaur do ya? Whatever dude.. I'll...

Molasses? wtf dude? I came here today because of a post by Earl at CC. I figured if he was here, there might be some smart growers here... same as CC, nothing but forum trolls bashing LEDs and they've never even tried them... same fucking people who tell the noobs 'flush.. flush..' for every...

So, you don't deny you have AIDS from butt sex with animals... Well, monkey fucker... I have a grow log going at CC, you can check it out. But I'm not the president of LED growing, there are many other decent LED grows... Admittly, there are many more poor LED grows out there, but usually, a...

I think someone needs a nap. Where you stamping your feet and holding your breath while you typed that?? LOLzzz.... -Loki