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  1. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns work.

    They reopened restaurants in Canada?
  2. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    I just got my Xiaomi Redmi Airdots. Only cost US $12 and a pandemic. They are freaking awesome though. They make the lockdown workout almost enjoyable. Gotta stay in shape!
  3. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Which states are jailing people for not going back to work? Does this apply to those meat processing plants that were the topic when you interjected? Support this claim with a citation.
  4. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    None of what you said int his post directly attributes the loss of man hours equivalent to a complete loss of production to the infection. It's due to people not working out of fear of infection. I don't disagree that at the height of a cluster of infections (not against calling it an outbreak...
  5. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Two meat packing plants are not the whole fucking economy and we could do with less bacon. Nobody said you have to go out and work. People want to go back to work. The plant does not have to stay closed, in fact I would be willing to bet that enough of those workers have recovered and are...
  6. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-31/sweden-reports-first-case-of-confirmed-coronavirus Sweden Jan31 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-26/norway-confirms-its-first-case-of-coronavirus Norway Feb27...
  7. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    No it isn't. This has been well established. This disease, by and large, is very mild in the young and healthy. Of critical cases only 1 in 5 do not have serious comorbidities such as cardio-pulomnary conditions and diabetes. Those dying are overwhelmingly the old and retired. The exceptions are...
  8. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Finally, governments are desperate to reopen economies. So get fucking used to it. The lockdowns are being lifted, because they didn't fucking work and we're risking a famine on top of our pandemic.
  9. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Even going off of the Bommer and Vollmer study, which is peer reviewed, we would have had a detection rate of 9% by the end of March. It is demonstrable through these seroprevalence studies that infections have increased exponentially and likewise, case numbers have also increased...
  10. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/20/l-a-covid-19-antibody-study-adds-further-support-for-a-higher-than-suspected-infection-rate/ https://spectator.us/covid-antibody-test-german-town-shows-15-percent-infection-rate/...
  11. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Sweden is more than a month ahead of any of those countries in its outbreak.
  12. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    Johan Giesecke is one of the world's most senior epidemiologists, yes he's Swedish, get over it. https://www.europereloaded.com/swedish-expert-dr-johan-giesecke-why-lockdowns-are-the-wrong-policy-video/
  13. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    You don't even know who said what, and you sure as fuck don't know what I said. Everyone who has gotten into this debate has gone from misunderstanding my argument and insisting "they work" to admitting only "they help" and before you've even had a reply from me, you've done this as well. I...
  14. abandonconflict

    Boycott China.

    I like how their diplomats announce shit on Twitter even though that shit's blocked in China.
  15. abandonconflict

    Trump* The Socialist

    America was drunk when it let China take over all manufacturing.
  16. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns work.

    A link would have sufficed.
  17. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns work.

    Sweden has had a total of 21,167 confirmed (clinically apparent) cases and 2,669 deaths. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/04/28/coronavirus-covid-19-sweden-anders-tegnell-herd-immunity/3031536001/
  18. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns work.

    There are 5.4 million people in Norway. They have had less than 8k cases and 211 deaths from covid19. They have one of the most aggressive test and trace programs in the world. They have to date conducted more than 170k lab tests which is one of the highest testing rates in the world. They...
  19. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/test-trace-lessons-hong-kong-avoiding-coronavirus-lockdown
  20. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    False. Hong Kong did not close all businesses. Hong Kongers have implemented voluntary social distancing.
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