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  1. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    The arguments I have seen are as follows: "define work" "define proof" "define lockdown" To which I answered. Then it was "Sweden suffered ten times as many deaths as several other countries combined" with no citation included. Then it was "But Austrailia" to which I replied that the success...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    You deserve whatever misfortune befalls you if you're so willing to forego having evidence provided to you that Donald Trump's USA allowed mayors and governors to infringe on constitutional rights without proving that the measures were effective. The fact is, it should have been possible for...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    So when NYC was on a full blown lockdown, almost everything closed, the hospitals weren't at capacity? Did that change because of those unconstitutional lockdowns or because the feds allocated resources to NYC? Beds and ventilators brought in just for Cuomo's little slice of paradise.
  4. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    So you aren't even going to prove that some guy who went surfing is responsible for your diabetic grandfather dying of a Chinese cold?
  5. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    You prove that Sweden suffered ten times more deaths to covid than all other Scandinavian countries combined. That was your claim. That is exactly what you said. It is absolutely a clearly established fact that Sweden approached the pandemic differently, I posit that they also reported...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    The onus is upon the militant lockdown activists to provide links.
  7. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    Austrailia is able to control movement in and out of the country as a whole due to it being an Island continent and it is also very sparesly populated. That explains Australia's performance well enough. In any case, Austrailia's control over the pandemic directly correlated to its supply of mrna...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    During one specific period? Yeah I don't really care for numbers like that, it's pointless. It's like comparing Uvalde's shooting death numbers to that of bumfuk kansas but only on May 25th.
  9. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    Different countries certainly have different reporting methods. This is definitely so when they have altogether different approaches to the very pandemic at the center of the debate.
  10. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    That's clearly based on differences in reporting methods. In Sweden, if you died from alcohol poisoning, that was the cause of death, whether you carried a novel Wu-flu or not.
  11. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    I did define it. There was no lockdown anywhere in which there is strong evidence that lockdowns had an impact on all cause mortality. If a state had a two week stay at home order in some part of 2020, you can not prove that this had an impact on the overall number of deaths over the entire...
  12. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    This is the problem with working in multiple languages. I haven't written much in English in the last two years. I used to could write better. Anyway US is as bad as China when it comes to group thinking and fear of taboo discussion.
  13. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    Your weak immune system does not trump my civil liberties. You're aloud to lock yourself down.
  14. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    You have every right in the world to wear a mask. Businesses have the right to insist that patrons wear masks. Government offices have the right to enact policies as to the wearing of masks on their premises. I will likey continue wearing a mask for the foreseeabe future because I like it. I...
  15. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    The purpose was to "flatten the curve" and very specificaly to avoid having too many cases too quickly for the limited supply of ventilators. You must understand this clearly because it is this very specific goal which was touted as the strategy to save lives. Not simply to slow the spread. All...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    No. The onus is not upon the free citizen to offer any reason at all as to why they have civil liberties. It is upon those who would infringe the free movement of the free citizen to prove that the measures were both effective and constitutional. Otherwise the precedent has been set and there...
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    Lockdowns didn't work.

    Oh right, slow the pace... So Sweden was a hare? How many laps did China go? I'm assuming each variation is a lap around the track at a given pace in the race to herd immunity. The only thing that had a slow pace was the global economy. Lockdowns did fuck all to slow the spread. The only...
  18. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns didn't work.

    I still wish my profile would be removed along with all my posts because I spent so many years agreeing with people who turned out to be militant lockdown advocates. But I'm still going to rub it in. Go ahead and tout your dead granny for sympathy, doesn't make you any less wrong, doesn't make...
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    In defense of landlords

    Is this why you pretend to be Jewish?
  20. abandonconflict

    Lockdowns don't work.

    In regard to the former Let's have an honest debate. I read your tedious comments and endured your insults and I am not distorting what you say. I read it carefully, I understand your argument. You're a fucking prick, which you already know, but I'm at least retorting with an honest...
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