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No probs, Just trying to help out

I use 25-30 watt 6700k fluorescents on top of each cloner, but my cloning systems are in a different location than veggers

Depends how many plants. But off of each system. If you have 1000 watts on it, you should get atleast 1 pound and you can work your way up

Its just that bigger plants usully have biiger roots, so people immediatly think biiger roots will equate to bigger plants. It doesnt mean you should aim for it. Had plenty heavy producers with smaller root masses

That looks so similar to what I got but at day 30. cheers

hey man, its really not that hard to build just from looking at the pics. the lengths of the tubes should be 45+ inches and the space between plant sites should be atleast 15 inches apart. Less plants is more .DO 3 plants a rail max. Build your pvc supports to be higher than the 50gal rez...

Yep, Agree with SS. with pump timings. least time but as healthy as possible. Is best. I like 30 seconds on 5 minutes off. I have been using that recently with no ill affects. I used to do 1 minute on 8 minutes off as well. In general they the pumps dont need to be on for more than 1 minutes...

I've found little difference when the rails are un-insulated. as long as the water is chilled well and the timers are every 5 minutes the roots stay cool

everything is pretty straight forward from the pics, if you built the old system. absolutely love the improvements... I use round tubes and still have nt figured out a cure for minor leaks here and there.

Really man, are you telling SS that his way is a waste of time. Do it his way and see for yourself. I used to be shyt before i adopted the SS rail method. Now I am still shyt, dont get me wrong, but even bad as I am with this system it will get you 24 oz a run...with massive neglect

Nice improvements SS. I like the way you made the support fort he rails very efficient an small. Thats bad ass..

I've mentioned before, that I always thought SS was some cyborg type of machine

IF i change every month BUT you are only topping off cause the plants drink up the whole rez, so I wait til the rez is low and refill. simple..

just pop out the misters and put in new ones. takes a few seconds. anyways. you should replace them every year or something...

canna nutes work well. the flora 2 part

I just got my self the gativa pro DE 1000 ballast and the Philips EL 400v bulbs For my reflector I got the adjust-a-wing Double Ended large reflector( linked below) https://sunlightsupply.com/p-15007-adjust-a-wings-double-ended-reflector.aspx I was looking at the Gativa hortistar 1000...

SS, is the angry core site still up?

keep it simple one puling all the time if it too much noise. hook up a fan speed controller.. you can just get light dimmer switch, simple wiring and you got it done

and its a major rippoff

word of advice, if you didnt build it yourself, you wont know how it works.