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  1. cleatis

    Here is why you are not voting for Obama

    Yeah, Bush and his cronies are real liberal, in fact there so far left I can't believe it myself. Or maybe republicans (politicians that is) just don't know how to manage money..... I find it interesting that when a democrat wants to spend a few billion dollars on something social it's an...
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    Should the Ten Commandments and Prayer Returned to Public Schools?

    I'm fairly educated in the bible. Some read it and "see the light" I read it and saw it as a fraudulent, obsolete fairy tale. I want no part of a god that is perfectly willing to destroy the earth because we don't believe he is there even though he has never shown himself other than in books. I...
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    Here is why you are not voting for Obama

    In all fairness the communism we see today and have seen in the past is not what Marx had in mind. They took some of the basic ideas of it and shaved off what they didn't want. Communism does work very well in small settings (a commune for instance) But countries are so large and vast that it...
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    I think it's time to let our govt know we sick of corruption

    I wouldn't say that we need divine intervention. Think of where greed and hunger for power comes from, it comes from the ego. And so long as we have some religion telling us all that we're special, we'll never shed that ego. Also consider that we're just another animal really. We're born with...
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    I think it's time to let our govt know we sick of corruption

    But that's the problem. WE can make the change, and corruption will sneak in gradually as it has and in a few generations we'll be pretty much in the same boat again.
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    Should the Ten Commandments and Prayer Returned to Public Schools?

    No way, we have plenty of religion addicts out there without ramming it to them in school. Jesus Christ, teaching religion in school is like shooting fish in a barrel, and the more religious folks try it the more I see religion as the organized cult that it usually is. Plus, Why do we even...
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    I think it's time to let our govt know we sick of corruption

    I don't think anything will do any good aside of something pretty serious like riots or even revolution. It's almost useless to try and make changes through the legal process unless you're wealthy as all hell. People chasing wealth is why most of our laws are as they are. We can vote for this...
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    I think it's time to let our govt know we sick of corruption

    Isn't that about the damn truth. Last I figured the national debt (maybe a trillion dollars ago) I found that every man woman and child would have to cough up $30,000 to pay it off, that's $120 grand for a family of four, just to pay the a right wing ego/power trip (among other things):spew...
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    Your Stoner Lingo

    I call it tuggin the muzzy (I call everything a muzzy)
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    Here is why you are not voting for Obama

    Exactly, there is no way possible I could be proud of this country. Maybe 30 or 40 or more years ago, but not now we've become pampas, spoiled, egotistical pussies that don't give a ten foot flying fuck about anything but our wallets.
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    Here is why you are not voting for Obama

    In all fairness, OBL hung out a lot with GW, and daddy Bush even helped the guy out, not to mention that it was the republicans that put Saddam in power. So if you want to talk about hanging out with terrorists.... And as far as holding government accountable I doubt that she will be doing any...
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    Post Your Poetry

    Incandescent orange blossoms over her face and recedes like sunset tide. Serpentine ringlets twist from the smoldering tip. When the light absorbs back the image of her face joins the kaleidoscopic spiral – fighting the undertow, they lose. A star glides my way to hang in front of me. I...
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    *Either you are with us, or against us

    yes, one that would actually require responsibility and some hard work. If the only way we can feel safe and secure is at the lives of million or more people, then perhaps something needs to change. Also as a side note, you said that terrorists were in the Mexican desert... Do we need to wade...
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    *Either you are with us, or against us

    I'm not saying to give up because it's hard, I'm saying that we are tearing up country after country, killing several times the civilians they even thought about and it's all for a right wing power trip. We can't afford it, they are going to move elsewhere, we would just leave another country in...
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    *Either you are with us, or against us

    Ok, so they used to be in Afghanistan, then they went to Iraq, now they are in Pakistan and Iran... We have almost gone broke fighting terrorism, killed people by amounts near genocide, how many times do we have to do this? This is McCarthy's dream with different bad guys. Plus, I see how the...
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    anti-trust suit against DuPont

    To a degree I think yes, but to another degree I think no. I think no mainly because that was 60+ years ago and the people that made those decisions are more than likely long gone. On the other hand I think it's still valid because they continue to profit from the same lie.
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    Radical Yet Hypothetical Thought

    So I was thinking.... Maybe it's my hippie upbringing here, but I had an idea that might interest people What if say a third of MJ users out there save seeds they get and even perhaps buy seeds when they can, germinate and plant the seeds... Only all over town? (Note, not on private property...
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    Is the legalization of Marijuana really worth it?

    Sorry, I don't mean we as ineveryone here or in the US, more like we as in humanity.
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    So, anyone else think they're making a BIG mistake by bringing the war into Pakistan?

    Absolutely, the whole thing is bullshit, and so few actually do anything about it. There are no demonstrations and the few we see are small in comparison. It's sad to the point of revolting that we would rather think about the Spears baby, or the next episode of "hole in the Wall". It's just a...
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    So, anyone else think they're making a BIG mistake by bringing the war into Pakistan?

    While I don't even agree with the premise of going there, I think that in the here and now we can't even afford it. We're working on going bankrupt fighting a couple little countries that are pretty much third world at this point. Plus, how many people died on 9/11? We have literally killed...
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