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Yes, religion as a whole is quite complex. But I meant that creation in its own vs evolution. Creation is quite simple to understand in comparison with evolution. But I agree totally on the views of mankind. I think religion paints man in too good a picture. And frankly, I think that's why so...

I understand what you are saying. and it even sounds like a good idea. But you nor anyone else on this planet can convince me that places like Kansas, Utah Texass and Missouri are just going to put the creation idea up there and keep it neutral. They aren't going to teach it in terms and compare...

to be honest I think a lot of people who favor creation favor it because it's easier to understand. Evolution is essentially part of how the earth changes as a whole. You have to really read a lot to understand how this or that happens. With creation, it just happened because god thought it was...

I find it interesting that those who criticize spontaneous generation are the ones who believe in something that just is and exists without any creator or start whatsoever...

I could be wrong, but you may have the cart before the horse. I think we became the pussies of the natural world because we gave them up. in other words, I think we lost our ability to run as fast as the apes because we didn't need it any more, we gave up our tolerance to cold because we figured...

Absolutely! Religion is a choice, it shouldn't be mandatory.

And if religious people really are the nuts we both seem to agree they can be, then what will stop religious nuts from using government funds to indoctrinate? We already use school as daycare, school already makes shaves the corners off every square peg and follows the agenda of making them all...

While I do agree that it would make the man more cash, The man makes plenty of cash through fines from pot heads and from taxpayer dollars going to their boat payment. If you don't want to smoke the chemicals, grow it yourself, if it's legal, growing it won't be that big a deal....

While I do agree that the little bastards aren't paying attention anyhow, Teaching creationism opens a huge door to get other religious bullshit into schools; it's a stones throw away from preaching. That's my biggest issue with it, is where does it stop and who gets to choose? We're already on...

well that's certainly understandable.

Not to be a Johnson or try and take sides, but I have never seen a dude in a huge SUV as having big balls, I have always seen it more as making up for the lack of them. To me the guy with balls is the one that can drive a pink honda and feel as secure in it as he would in a bronco with 40 inch...

I don't really know a whole lot about ol Abe, but I think the thought of him being gay was pretty much just hearsay. I remember a few people made a big deal out of it because he slept in the same bed as another man on some trip, but at that time it wasn't that big of a deal. Anyhow I can't say...

He doesn't see it as protecting America, he sees it as opportunity to do whatever in the hell he has always wanted to do, it just happens to be under the guise of protection and security. The old enemy behind every tree thing has been the back bone of Bush and his ilk for decades, they took the...

I think someone already said this, but sure, only if churches start teaching evolution. Church is where we learn about Adam and Eve, class is where we learn science.

I don't think that anyone knows what a conservative is. I do however remember people who proudly called themselves conservative also just loving old Georgie because he "kept the liberals in line" and made sure that "liberals wouldn't get control and put is in the hole" and so on and so forth...

I think you hit the nail with people getting pissed off. In the america I always knew money was the straight up bottom line. Keep people in enough money to buy a subdivision house, a nissan, a big screen and a few bills and no one asked any questions, no one took any action or even observed much...

I don't see how it is that much different from god creating things like colds and disease. Or to be put this way: imagine say an 8 year old kid. For some pedophile to get ahold of them isn't really any more evil than god giving him leukemia.

That's so true. the people don't have any power now, they just work and pay the man to tell them what to do.

I really think that America as we know it is pretty short lived. Hell, it isn't even close to the america we had 50 years ago. And despite what all the America lovers will say, we are just like any empire, bound to fall. Personally, I think we're so far down the hole now that we're either...

I kind of think that you both can be right. The government does spend a lot of money to keep it illegal, no here disputes that. However as I mentioned in the opening, there are a lot of people that pay off a politician through donations etc. I'm sure no one will dispute that. The amount the...