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  • Hey! Have you ever heard that thing about Imaging yourself imagining something? Then of course, Self can also imagine watching all that, and of course, imagining that Self is imaging all that, too. On and on...a little consciousness puzzle?

    And remeber when I opinied we have to leave it all behind including Identity? Well, I been challening myself with the stark relatity. Is it possible to imagine Self, but, all else, unknown, including Identity?

    Yes, yes, it is. :)
    As a revealed narcissistic, :) I see it very simply.

    In the world but not of it. Make right action, in Now, unfettered by attachment to results. Constantly meditate and remember Holy Name.

    What I do IN the world doesn't matter much. Be like the devotees, Arjun, Peter, etc? Not the message of the god-man. What would Jesus do? Not the point, either. There is this experience. If I only meditate, I realize the experience. What else is there? The harmony of the Spheres. The thunder of the Word. All in Now.

    We are not here for long. To me the world is Lyla. God's Play. It's meant to be enjoyed. And somehow, I am rich and have stuff, provide for my family, etc. But all I did was follow hints from super-c. Meditation brrng not only a calm demenor and a quiet mind, it allows super-c much more influence in decision making. Things just work out. SC doesn't operate from fear, uncertainty and doubt and thus brings good silent advice in the stillness of all.
    Yeah, it was in the 70s'. Too many of the back East, big city, rich counter culture types, grasping for power and too confused to realize, much less admit it.. And it was a collision with the very innocent ways of India. Much like in Palistine, oh so long ago.

    All all us, even himself, were not expecting the hard-ass view that Christians would take. They claimed we were saying he was Deity. But, not so. He and we were simply enacting the ancient Lyla, the Play, dancing around all blissful. IAC, much trouble. Jews especially were joining and claiming the New Messiah. Now everyone was on edge and somehow expecting Perfection from the one guy who never said that.

    He said, "If only you would practice this meditation."
    With ex-devotees (???) of my own first guru, total confusion still exist. Blame, recriminations, judgments, second guesses, you owe me, etc. Sour grapes. these folks set up an, out of control, world organization. They were creating a hierarchal Church power base. Don't get your pHD. Tune in, turn on, drop out became the contamination. Dues and tithes. Pay to play.

    I was a local mission leader when Prem Pal quietly, privately, denounced the entire thing, Most folks got their panties in a twist. Not me. I wanted him to bow out of the guru game as they defined it. I understood it, helped him dismantle it before he or we got hurt, like a certain JC, et al. It is so dangerous to propose simplicity in the face of world's complexity.

    His message before, afterward and now is very simple. "If you would only meditate...." Emphasis on ONLY. I only meditate, therefore I have no questions and there are no answers, consequently. :)
    But not sin and guilt. More like born confused and stay that way. We chase the complexity of mind rather than the simplicity of spirit?
    Chanting, fasting, charity, austerity
    never bring you knowledge of the soul
    will never reveal your soul

    without the Knowledge of Satguru
    rites and rituals never reach the goal

    In the river of bondage to maya
    All are swept out to sea
    All are sinking in the depths of the sea
    Guru's ship is the holy word

    Anger, desire, attachments
    Rob us of eternal life
    Take away our heavenly life

    Religions harp their own glories
    Call to follow their own path

    Bible, Gita, the Koran
    Sing the glory of Your Name
    They all sing the glory of Your Name

    Desires have robbed me and left me
    Trapped in the darkness of the night

    You bring the mind true detachment
    Save us from the ocean deep
    Jai Dev, Jai Satgurudev
    There is song we sing to Guru in the Sikh tradition of Nanak. I've borrowed some stanzas to highlight a concept. All symbolism defines the path leading away from my goal. To me the symbols of Sun, Moon, etc , the turn of phrases, the meaning or words are all the special part of Maya that move us away from blissful detachment. We get excited, we think we figured out something. I know. Been there. Done that.
    Well, I guess I also need to re-define. The root, telesm, is a magic object. You are not a magic object? Here's a question. How does, "seek and you will find" square with the concept of "Seeking your desire, the world, Maya, will flee before you?"

    Unless we see signs and miracles.....Humbly, we can reply we already have the one telsm we need. Instead of thinking about it, we use the super-c for the telesmatic properties IT possesses.
    This? "The central theme of the kachina cult is the presence of life in all objects that fill the universe. Everything has an essence or a life force, and humans must interact with these or fail to survive."
    IAC, the rune. Interesting that it's 1/18. In Shinto it's one of the 9 hearts, that is never revealed beyond oneself. And, course, these are multiples of Trinity, as you pointed out.
    Gibor? Gibor Basri? He found the first brown dwarf star.

    The rune Gibor?

    An eighteenth I know, / that ne'er will I tell / To maiden or wife of man, / The best is what none / but one's self doth know
    I read on another board that there we were attacked by a Rassta apocalyptic group. Come on 2013. I'm getting sick of this already.
    Occam's Razor. The WORD is Now. It slices, it dices. :) Hey, did you get the PM I sent? No biggie, just a ping.
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