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ViparSpectra are looking good. I just ordered the 450w for myself.

Ah that is such a bummer to hear that you do not like them. Why do you avoid them? I was hoping to get the 600w for my 3x3 room. What lights do you go with? OliveDrabGreen are those your first LED that you just ordered or have you grown with Viparspectra before? If so what were your results like?

Currently using BlackStars. Wanted to look at these new ones. I have seen good stuff from other grows with them.

I just think Kind is too much for the quality. If you're gonna buy Kind I would rather buy Mars Hydro, the quality is the same. That beind said, the quality is not TERRIBLE, I'm just saying KIND over charges for what you could pay a quarter of the price for.

Either find a light that has Cree Cob Leds in them, or go with the cheaper LED models, I have 3 Mars Hydros, one in veggie 2 in floweriing, wake up every morning to lush new plant growth and fat donkey-dick colas and all i paid was 350 for ALL 3 lights...that pays for I think one KIND led.

Woyaboy I have been reading more and more about the Mars lights. I have heard good and bad things. Main bad review is that they loose lights after 6 months of use. If I am going to be paying 350 every 6 months it seems more logical to shell out more to start and get something that lasts years. That being said I know NOTHING about LEDs, have lots more questions and definitely thank you for your advice.

What 2 mars lights do you use in your flowering room? How long have you had them? How many plants are you running under them? What are you average yields and how long to you veg/flower? What set up would you suggest for my 3x3?

Gotta snap chat? I'll show you around mane.

So I am taking your advice and moving away from Kind. I think I am going to go with the Platinum P4-XML2 for my 3x3 flowering tent and a VIPARSPECTRA Reflector Series V300 LED for veg tent. Total cost for 2 lights is still less than 1 Kind haha. Thank you for the advice man I appreciate it. Yes I do have a snapchat its positive_train

I'll add you right now. I'm at work though, so I can't show you round till morning 8am Eastern Time. I'm glad you are...there are some companies who are expensive b/c they're worth it, and there are some companies that are expensive b/c they prey off lack of knowledge of the market...KIND is one of those.

KIND works fine, don't get me wrong. But the quality is the same as the Chinese ones so there is just no point in paying extra. I have heard plenty of people say that KINDS leds burn out quick too, seems it's just an u nfortuante side effect till people figure out how to put them together right.

FYI I have 2 Mars II 400's in my flowering tent and one Mars 600 for vegging. I'll show you around in my Snapchat, show you how they grow. Warning, I am still learning so I nute burned one plant to a crisp, that's not the led's fault, and in the veg tent I just main lined them all, so there is not much to look at...but I do have older pics I can send from a month ago, same lights and everything.

Yeah I am nervous about nutrient burn on my first coco grow. I think the worm hummis will give me a little more room for error. I think I may be able to get a Kind 600L for 300 though. It's worth keeping an eye on. Homies on the K5 thread were talking about Amare so I emailed them for some more information.

ONce I have a few grows under my belt I'm gonna upgrade but that'll be to Cree Cob's, not something like KIND. If you're gonna pay KIND money, buy a Cree Cob light! Trust.