2012 Electoral Map

UncleBuck

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the census will give 12 extra points right away to the red states.

still, repubs will have to flip indiana, north carolina, virginia, florida, pennsylvania, and ohio to get past 270.

if they only get ohio or pennsylvania but not both, they'll have to also flip colorado, new mexico, nevada, and iowa as well to make a path to 270+.

with kasich setting ohio on fire (backlash is making it likely his state will stay blue), and rick scott setting florida on fire (scott and kasich are the two most unpopular governors in the nation), this seems like a tall task.

especially with the dregs floating around for the nomination right now.

:hump:
 
i'll give you florida, virginia, north carolina, and indiana. that puts red states at 247.

23 more to go...pennsylvania is 20, ohio is 18. have to get them both.

or you could get one or the other and flip one of nevada, colorado, iowa, or new mexico.

ohio and iowa is probably the easiest way there, but kasich has been fucking up ohio (http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=11901&title=f-ing-up) and his union busting bill will certainly be voted down (it was recalled and can't be enforced, it must be voted upon now).
 
Do you think that means shit, why do you think odumbass wants a billion dollars. To buy votes from the unions,acorn and to make sure there is a third party. Yea I know he don't do things like that. LMAO
 
I think the electoral college is bullshit and it should be a clean count majority vote like our constitution intended. Then again with all the self serving douche bags in gov. what we have now it what we should expect. How bad has our country gotten that a candidate can stand in front of you a tell bold face lies yet people turn around and still vote for them.
 
Do you think that means shit, why do you think odumbass wants a billion dollars. To buy votes from the unions,acorn and to make sure there is a third party. Yea I know he don't do things like that. LMAO

and i'm sure the republican candidate will raise funds by turning in old bottle for the deposit :roll:

what, money plays a part in politics? holy shit! when did this happen?
 
I think the electoral college is bullshit and it should be a clean count majority vote like our constitution intended. Then again with all the self serving douche bags in gov. what we have now it what we should expect. How bad has our country gotten that a candidate can stand in front of you a tell bold face lies yet people turn around and still vote for them.

You need to go re-read the Constitution. If you are going to mention it in a post, you should have some idea of what it says.

Start with Article 2.

Sorry, nothing personal. I just have a hard time letting utter bullshit go by without calling it out. It's a pet peeve of mine. There is too much bullshit floating out there already. No need to add to that pile.
 
From the NYTimes on Obama's reelection effort so far:
President Obama raised more than $86 million for his re-election campaign and the Democratic National Committee in the last three months, besting previous campaign fund-raising records for the quarter and far outpacing the Republicans who are hoping to replace him in the White House.

Mr. Obama’s campaign, Obama for America, raised $47 million, while the president’s frequent fund-raisers boosted the D.N.C.’s coffers by $38 million. Democrats had set a goal of raising a combined $60 million for both groups by the end of June.
The fund-raising total gives Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party an early and large lead over his potential rivals. The president’s campaign manager, Jim Messina, said he will use the cash to ramp up Mr. Obama’s campaign operation across the country even as the Republican primary is under way.

The Republican front-runner, Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, raised $18.25 million in the quarter that ended on June 30. Tim Pawlenty, the former governor of Minnesota, raised $4.2 million. Jon M. Huntsman Jr., the former governor of Utah, raised $4.1 million, including about $2 million from himself.

Mr. Messina announced the president’s fund-raising totals in a predawn video to campaign supporters, two days before the campaign is required to file what is expected to be a 15,000-page campaign finance report with the Federal Election Commission.

And it comes even as the president is locked in a high-wire negotiation with Republicans in Washington over how to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, reduce the government’s annual deficit and revamp costly entitlement programs.

In the fund-raising message, Mr. Messina thanked supporters for the early support.

“We have reason to be proud of what we’ve built so far but it’s going to be tougher from here,” he said.

The president’s top political aides have said they expect to match — or even possibly exceed — the $750 million that Mr. Obama raised during the 2008 campaign. Mr. Messina noted that the support for Mr. Obama during the last three months far exceeded the support he got as a candidate. The numbers also reflect the inherent advantages of incumbency; President George W. Bush raised just more than $35 million during the same period in 2003, as he prepared for his re-election campaign.

Mr. Messina said that 552,462 people had contributed to the president and the D.N.C. this year, nearly triple the number of contributors to Mr. Obama’s first presidential campaign by this time in 2007.

Mr. Messina claimed, somewhat immodestly, that the number of donors represents “more grassroots support at this point in the process than any campaign in political history.”

Mr. Messina also bragged that 98 percent of the contributions to Mr. Obama’s campaign this year have been $250 or less, and that the average contribution was $69.

The president’s campaign is bracing for a bruising re-election battle that will be waged in part by outside groups, like Crossroads GPS, a conservative group that counts Karl Rove among its advisers; and Priorities USA Action, formed by Bill Burton, President Obama’s former deputy press secretary. Those groups are expected to raise hundreds of millions of dollars, in part because they are allowed to raise unlimited amounts of money directly from corporations.

The money raised by the president will allow early advertising efforts to push back against criticism of the president coming from the Republican presidential candidates and from outside groups about Mr. Obama’s handling of the economy.

Mr. Messina said that it would also allow the campaign to begin building its infrastructure. He said the campaign already has 60 field offices across the country and will be opening more in the months to come.

“This is a whole new ballgame like we’ve never done before,” he said.
Seems like the Republicans are likely to have some trouble in 2012.. $86M to Romney's $18M. Ouch! lol.

edit: Ron Paul raised over 4.5M so far hasn't he? They didn't even list him in this article but they did in this one.
 
From the NYTimes on Obama's reelection effort so far:

Seems like the Republicans are likely to have some trouble in 2012.. $86M to Romney's $18M. Ouch! lol.

edit: Ron Paul raised over 4.5M so far hasn't he? They didn't even list him in this article but they did in this one.
LOL I was gonna say that the source of yours must be stupid or something as RP has the second highest amount on the Elephant side.
 
Well you have a point as far as the Second amendment goes. If you really want to get technical the term "Electoral College" does not exsist in the Constitution just the word "Electors" as in a group of people working together. Also if you read deeply re-districting or what ever you want to call it that is done by the Federal Gov. in unconstitutional and that is a power that is given to the states.
 
Danm these political threads sure get brutal..but know matter who you vote for or who wins its going to be the same shit in washington..
 
North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, and Florida will be the only states that matter. If Obama can hang on to 3/4 of those he'll win big. He probably still wins hanging on to 2/4 of those. Expect a lot of pandering to those states as well as lots of government money going into job creation funneled there.
 
86 million divided by # of union members/acorn/coffee party/black panthers(not being racist)/rev wrights church/wall street/gm etc etc etc=the amount extra union dues they have to pay.

Yep the math is right.
 
lol@Iowa being democrat

Maybe I live in a box but it's hard pressed to find an Obama supporter where I live in Murderapolis MN, you would think that would be his MN army right there.
 
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