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Hey guys just wondering how many time you can top without adverse affects! And does topping affect quality or size. My plant has responded well to topping so far, is it best to grow her out from here, or should i top more?
 

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Hey guys just wondering how many time you can top without adverse affects! And does topping affect quality or size. My plant has responded well to topping so far, is it best to grow her out from here, or should i top more?
I like topping twice. Once after the plant gets to its 4th/5th node. Then train those branches to the width of how wide you want your plant and then top each of those branches. Each time you top you get more bud sites with slightly smaller buds compared to a few branches with a big cola on each of them.
 
I top my autos when the stems show thickness, and have tight node spacing. I also do this before day 21 +- a day. If they are taller spindly stems, I do not mess with them. Once I top I just LST afterwards.
Here is a FIM on my current grow, and it truly was a FIM not purposely done! If you look close you can see the original center of the plant and she has grown what appears to be a center cola again! Center cola is small for for now, but she has at least another 4 to 6 weeks of growing. She did spread nicely and has quite a few bud sites forming. This is a Zamnesia WURLZ F1 Auto.
 

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I top my autos when the stems show thickness, and have tight node spacing. I also do this before day 21 +- a day. If they are taller spindly stems, I do not mess with them. Once I top I just LST afterwards.
Here is a FIM on my current grow, and it truly was a FIM not purposely done! If you look close you can see the original center of the plant and she has grown what appears to be a center cola again! Center cola is small for for now, but she has at least another 4 to 6 weeks of growing. She did spread nicely and has quite a few bud sites forming. This is a Zamnesia WURLZ F1 Auto.
Nice man yours look happy and healthy, i might top a couple more times then, and then flower it out, mines a green gelato photoperiod
 
you can be quite agressive with some strains. i had white widow from greenhouse seeds, i was topping it loads of times and it never hermied on me, i did however get so many buds that were very small and i didn't do it again, waste of time, top as the guys above sugesst, keep it to a minimum to be on the safe side,
it worked on the first lot of seeds frm greenhouse, but i believe they were the original breeders, so the strain was sund and could take the constan
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Nice man yours look happy and healthy, i might top a couple more times then, and then flower it out, mines a green gelato photoperiod
I only top once, then LST from there, especially with autos, just not enough time after say day 25. Photo periods you can continue until you want to flip. But as another poster stated the more you cut, the smaller the buds get.
 
I prefer to fim, instead of top. Topping stunts growth a lot longer. Fiming is basically just pinching the top bud off. Its less stress and accomplishes the same goal quicker.
I did my first Fim on this current grow and you are correct. She recovered quicker, I still got the lower branches at the node to grow out, but then I got 2 extra stems that formed out of the Fimmed area, almost like they were main colas! Because they took a little bit to form and develop, they are shorter but definitely stout. My plant looks like I flat topped her but beautiful even canopy. Since they were autos she isn't but maybe 20 inches tall at most, but over 44 inches in circumference with all her side branching. Guessing at 4 oz tops from her, maybe 3.5. all on an experiment!
 
If it's a photoperiod plant, you can top for months, maybe years. I kept a couple alive for 2 years under vegetative photoperiod. As they got too tall for their growing space, I'd top them.

You have to make sure there are leaves below your cuts. I also think taking too much height is dangerous. One time I killed a cannabis plant by topping more than half its height. These days if I need to take that much or more, I'll only do half the plant, wait for recovery, then do the other half.
 
I prefer to fim, instead of top. Topping stunts growth a lot longer. Fiming is basically just pinching the top bud off. Its less stress and accomplishes the same goal quicker.
You had a different objective than I had. You're trying to maximize growth while encouraging branching. I'm making severe cutbacks for purposes of minimizing height.
 
She done so well and grown fast and then today i found pollen sacs starting to show so i picked them all off but its going to be a losing battle, im fighting with myself on chopping her
 

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You had a different objective than I had. You're trying to maximize growth while encouraging branching. I'm making severe cutbacks for purposes of minimizing height.
If you start fiming early on, cutbacks are rarely necessary. Most plants will bush out and grow wide and squatty, if you fim aggressively. I will often pinch the top bud once the plant has developed 3-4 sets of leaves.
I dont have a lot of experience with Autos, so I cant say for sure if aggressive fiming is a good strategy. The collective opinion for autos seems to be that some fiming is good. However, severely stunting growth is obviously a bad thing since autos will flower after a certain amount of hours. Ive also read that too much stress can cause autos to flower earlier.
 
If you start fiming early on, cutbacks are rarely necessary. Most plants will bush out and grow wide and squatty, if you fim aggressively. I will often pinch the top bud once the plant has developed 3-4 sets of leaves.
I dont have a lot of experience with Autos, so I cant say for sure if aggressive fiming is a good strategy. The collective opinion for autos seems to be that some fiming is good. However, severely stunting growth is obviously a bad thing since autos will flower after a certain amount of hours. Ive also read that too much stress can cause autos to flower earlier.

I agree fimming is a great technique, very low stress on the plant. It probably is great for starting from seed and going straight through harvest.

BTW, I'm not sure how Built's question became about autos, he said his plant was a photoperiod. I was thinking myself of photoperiod plants, and in a perpetual system. A plant may be cutback for scheduling. The bloom tent is full, another few weeks to harvest, and there are cloned plants big enough to bloom? Or perhaps there's already enough personal stash on hand. Time to keep the mother plant alive and not pay to run the bloom lights?
 
I agree fimming is a great technique, very low stress on the plant. It probably is great for starting from seed and going straight through harvest.

BTW, I'm not sure how Built's question became about autos, he said his plant was a photoperiod. I was thinking myself of photoperiod plants, and in a perpetual system. A plant may be cutback for scheduling. The bloom tent is full, another few weeks to harvest, and there are cloned plants big enough to bloom? Or perhaps there's already enough personal stash on hand. Time to keep the mother plant alive and not pay to run the bloom lights?
I hate when that happens. Its really satisfying when cycling new clones times out perfectly. :blsmoke:

Someone mentioned autos... :eyesmoke:
 
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