What light should I get for a bigger tent?

I just wrapped up my last harvest a few weeks ago and buds are currently curing. I’m running 2 autos that a week in and I thought now might be a good time to upgrade so I can have more vertical space. I’m looking at the vivosun 2.7x2.7 grow tent, but I don’t want to use there light. I wanted to try spider farmer or mars hydro. Do they work with the e43 grow hub controller from vivosun? I’m upgrading from a 2x2x4, so I’m going to be using all the same equipment, inline fans, etc. my question is what light that is around 200 watts that works with the grow hub controller and produces amazing results? I managed to pull 89 grams from a 100w so bigger is better right? I want maybe a half pound per plant or close to it if that helps any
 
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Id use mars hydro fc1500 or fce series. I do for my vivisun thats 60”x 32” listed as a 5x2. Its really a 2.5x5 which are my favorite and increasingly hard to find. 2.5x2.5 is even harder but 2.7x2.7 sounds great Id probably buy it when I need new one. Then I use a 3x3 just for extra power but I still only get like 7.9oz with a viparspectra at 75%.

It used to burn my clones so just did 50% but last run got it up to 75. So more light isnt always better infact it causes me issues. Just the right amount of light, I dont think theyll fuss. I do 7oz clones its a nice pull but takes effort and skill to avoid mold and etc.

So a 7-8oz clone for a 2.5x2.5 space, any more space just helps with air flow and leaving some thinner colas on for extra yield. It dont add up to a whole lot more though. For sure genetics matter, its just what I work with but there are genetics that could do a pound in that same space. Have to find and clone it though for best results Id say.

Id still keep the setup the same though. Its not more light giving more yield its the genetics.
 
Its Both. More light=more harvest. But, one also must have a constant fresh air exchange, or the plant(s) will not be able to use all of the light, and will get stressed out.

The SUN, is 2100umol, and the ambient CO2 in the air, is 421ppm. Seedlings outside, get blasted from day one, will 2100umol. Outside, though CO2 is only 421ppm, it is constant, and there is so much of it, a plant will never be short of O2, outside, even though ppm, may be considered low.

New experiments have also intimated, seedlings can indeed do better under up to 900 umol, inside. But again, one must have adequate fresh air exchange. I saw one study that says 1500umol, and 86f, is the optimum scenario, for marijuana metabolism. And this is with NO CO2.

I blast my seedlings from day one, with 1000w Hortilux Blue, or a 1000w Hortilux HPS, or, a DE Gavita 1150w. Halide/HPS are at 20-24 inches, and the DE Gavita is at 45 inches. I let the plants grow into the intensity. If I notice stress, I raise the lights. But, I usually dont have a problem with light stress.
But, IMO Genetics, Strong Light, lots of root space, and Environment, are the main contributors to a huge yield.
 
Its Both. More light=more harvest. But, one also must have a constant fresh air exchange, or the plant(s) will not be able to use all of the light, and will get stressed out.

The SUN, is 2100umol, and the ambient CO2 in the air, is 421ppm. Seedlings outside, get blasted from day one, will 2100umol. Outside, though CO2 is only 421ppm, it is constant, and there is so much of it, a plant will never be short of O2, outside, even though ppm, may be considered low.

New experiments have also intimated, seedlings can indeed do better under up to 900 umol, inside. But again, one must have adequate fresh air exchange. I saw one study that says 1500umol, and 86f, is the optimum scenario, for marijuana metabolism. And this is with NO CO2.

I blast my seedlings from day one, with 1000w Hortilux Blue, or a 1000w Hortilux HPS, or, a DE Gavita 1150w. Halide/HPS are at 20-24 inches, and the DE Gavita is at 45 inches. I let the plants grow into the intensity. If I notice stress, I raise the lights. But, I usually dont have a problem with light stress.
But, IMO Genetics, Strong Light, lots of root space, and Environment, are the main contributors to a huge yield.
Send me a link for your lights please. Would like to try a bulb run.
 
I just wrapped up my last harvest a few weeks ago and buds are currently curing. I’m running 2 autos that a week in and I thought now might be a good time to upgrade so I can have more vertical space. I’m looking at the vivosun 2.7x2.7 grow tent, but I don’t want to use there light. I wanted to try spider farmer or mars hydro. Do they work with the e43 grow hub controller from vivosun? I’m upgrading from a 2x2x4, so I’m going to be using all the same equipment, inline fans, etc. my question is what light that is around 200 watts that works with the grow hub controller and produces amazing results? I managed to pull 89 grams from a 100w so bigger is better right? I want maybe a half pound per plant or close to it if that helps any
I would get the mars hydro fce 1500
 
I just wrapped up my last harvest a few weeks ago and buds are currently curing. I’m running 2 autos that a week in and I thought now might be a good time to upgrade so I can have more vertical space. I’m looking at the vivosun 2.7x2.7 grow tent, but I don’t want to use there light. I wanted to try spider farmer or mars hydro. Do they work with the e43 grow hub controller from vivosun? I’m upgrading from a 2x2x4, so I’m going to be using all the same equipment, inline fans, etc. my question is what light that is around 200 watts that works with the grow hub controller and produces amazing results? I managed to pull 89 grams from a 100w so bigger is better right? I want maybe a half pound per plant or close to it if that helps any
I grow in a 2' x 4' and use a variety of lights during a grow (Vipar XS 1500, Mars SP3000, Growcraft X3 veg light, Growcraft X3 flower light + Spider GlowR80's). Lots of lights, yes, but each light has a specific purpose.

Your tent measure 32" x 32" so a light for a 3' x 3' is the place to start looking. I looked at lights from Spider, Mars, and Migro. I was psyched when Migro came out with their new lights recently and their 250S is a great fit for your tent.



The Spider Farmer G3000 has great digital integration if you wanted to go with electronics from Spider. Looking at the PPFD map, there's good light in the center but, frankly, the PPFD values collapse around the edges. Their G/SE4500 is a runaway winner for a 2' x 4' tent but the G/SE3000 is not in the same league.

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Mars has some great lights but they're not covering themselves in glory in the 3' market. At 12", the PPFD map is strangely uneven. At 18" the light is a little better but it's got the same problem around the edges as it does as 12" in that it's verging on DAWA ("dark as a whale's ass") territory.

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For my money, I'd go with one of the new Migro lights. The PPFD map (below) is for a 16" hang height and it's pushing out just under 1100µmol in the center and well over 800 along the front and back. One advantage of having an even PPFD map at 16" hang height is the you can run the light at max power and, because it's that far above the canopy, the canopy won't get as warm as it would at just a few inches lower. And, just checked, the driver can be dismounted and run via its 15' cord.


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Migro revamped the entire product line and released their new models about a month ago. Shane, the owner of the company, is an engineer and he's pretty involved in the design of his products as well as day to day operations of the company. I found a typo on their web page and sent in an email. I got an answer back from Shane the next morning.

All three of those lights are $200± but the Spider and the Mars aren't up to the level of the new Migro light which stands out above the rest in terms of delivering photons.



Will the Migro (or others) work with the E42A? Yes, according to Migro. The Migro product page states: "Lighting controller compatible incl. AC Infinity(type B adaptor), Vivosun, Trolmaster (LMA-14), Telos Growcast, Grow flux". Best thing to do is to contact Vivosun and double check, just to make sure.

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Note - another option would be two Vipar XS 1500 Pro lights or one of their XS3000 Pro's which is two 1500's on held together by a bracket. The XS1500 is a good choice for a 2' tent but runs out of gas around if you put it in a 3' tent.

And, yes, Migro makes a light for a 2' tent, which I believe pushes the XS1500 Pro off the throne as the best 2' light but the Migro light is 18" x 18", so you can't get two of them in a 32" tent, and at 150 watts, it just doesn't have the oomph to light up a 3' wide grow area.
 
Are you affiliated with Mass Hydroponics?
Whats the deal with their clone offerings - legit or steer clear?
No Affiliation.

MMS clones? Never grown them, but I do know the guy is pretty active, and supplies clones to those in Massachusetts. If he had clones I wanted, I wouldnt hesitate to buy from him.
 
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