The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

Fogdog said:

There is another saying: If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. I get it. The problem we face is, those 60% that are racist also oppose what you propose.

Two more years until we can get rid of the Republican presidency.

Six more years until we can get rid of Republican controlled Senate.

Universal healthcare can't be made into law until those happen. Even then,

It's simply not something that will happen overnight. I don't think it should, either. Not if the Bernie's Medicare for all plan is what gets enacted. We have to do better than that.

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Depending on what happens over the next three months or so Donald's days might be numbered as POTUS and as a free citizen. The republican senate majority is at grave risk in 2020 because they will have their votes recorded, in a very public, impeachment trial. They will be damned if they do (by the base) and damned if they don't (by the electorate), because the evidence on multiple counts will be overwhelming and conclusive. From the bare glimpses we've seen thus far, it looks like Uncle Sam has Donald and dozens of other assholes firmly by the balls. The impeachment trial (treason trial) of Donald J Trump will definitively will be entertaining and it will be on all the TV channels! Does he have to be in attendance during the impeachment trial? Can the chief justice, who will be presiding, order Donald tied to his chair and gagged? It might be necessary! It should be a real riot...

DIY-HP-LED said:

Depending on what happens over the next three months or so Donald's days might be numbered as POTUS and as a free citizen. The republican senate majority is at grave risk in 2020 because they will have their votes recorded, in a very public, impeachment trial. They will be damned if they do (by the base) and damned if they don't (by the electorate), because the evidence on multiple counts will be overwhelming and conclusive. From the bare glimpses we've seen thus far, it looks like Uncle Sam has Donald and dozens of other assholes firmly by the balls. The impeachment trial (treason trial) of Donald J Trump will definitively will be entertaining and it will be on all the TV channels! Does he have to be in attendance during the impeachment trial? Can the chief justice, who will be presiding, order Donald tied to his chair and gagged? It might be necessary! It should be a real riot...

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I still don't think Trump is going to get impeached or put in jail ever.

I would be glad to be wrong.

Fogdog said:

I still don't think Trump is going to get impeached or put in jail ever.

I would be glad to be wrong.

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I don't think we will have to wait too long to find out and once he's out of office only a Pence pardon can save him from life in prison. I wonder how much and when Pence knew about the Russian business, or the other illegal acts during the election? Did he talk to Mueller too, if he was innocent in this business he would have cooperated with the special counsel (secretly)? Pence pardoning Trump would leave him along with the rest of the suckers like Manafort and Flynn holding the bag. Pardoning Trump for treason won't be a very popular or even smart move.

i don't know what to think about Pence, actually....as far as what he knew or when he knew it....i can imagine both a scenario where they keep him totally in the dark, just using him as a figurehead to fill the spot with someone evangelicals would support...and a scenario where he is totally implicit in everything trump does....not sure which one is more accurate....
i'm not happy about it, but i agree with Fog on this one...if Mueller had something concrete to hit trump with, he would have hit the motherfucker with it by now...trump is apparently just smart enough to distance himself from the people who do his dirty shit for him...and smart enough to obtain and hide dirt on them that he can use to influence them, to protect him, when no sane person would.
trump may go to jail, but if he does, it'll be after he's out of office and all the federal suits he's dodging right now catch up with him, and he won't be impeached...if he was going to be, it would be happening by now.

for manafort being out of politics for so long to suddenly show up on team trump is not a coincidence. and manafort was very supportive of pence being VP too. i don't think it was just for the Christian vote. the Christians weren't going to vote for hillary no how, no way.

Fogdog said:

I still don't think Trump is going to get impeached or put in jail ever.

I would be glad to be wrong.

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impeach? no way with the GOP senate.

prison? i think trump is looking at numerous state charges of money laundering in NY and FL. fingers crossed.

rkymtnman said:

impeach? no way with the GOP senate.

prison? i think trump is looking at numerous state charges of money laundering in NY and FL. fingers crossed.

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i think those cases are whats going to eventually put him in prison, if anything does.
what i'm waiting on is the pariah effect when he's out of office...what contractor would ever work for him without getting paid up front? what illegals will ever seek work at his properties again, after he sold them down the river? what bank will loan him money, after it becomes public just what a thief he is? what good American would ever work for this piece of shit, after him raping the entire Country? what lawyer would defend him, after the way he's treated every lawyer he's ever had?
who will do his dirty shit for him, after he's thrown EVERYONE under the bus?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i think those cases are whats going to eventually put him in prison, if anything does.
what i'm waiting on is the pariah effect when he's out of office...what contractor would ever work for him without getting paid up front? what illegals will ever seek work at his properties again, after he sold them down the river? what bank will loan him money, after it becomes public just what a thief he is? what good American would ever work for this piece of shit, after him raping the entire Country? what lawyer would defend him, after the way he's treated every lawyer he's ever had?
who will do his dirty shit for him, after he's thrown EVERYONE under the bus?

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steele did an interview with somebody after his dossier and he said the evidence of money laundering was startling. and he didn't have anywhere near the tools that Mueller and southern district of NY have

rkymtnman said:

steele did an interview with somebody after his dossier and he said the evidence of money laundering was startling. and he didn't have anywhere near the tools that Mueller and southern district of NY have

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if someone has found a smoking gun, they should use it to shoot his big orange ass with....wtf are they waiting on now?

Roger A. Shrubber said:

if someone has found a smoking gun, they should use it to shoot his big orange ass with....wtf are they waiting on now?

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i think it's a good tactic to wait (as long as he doesn't blow up the world)

he wont' be impeached at least by the Senate. and if the House does, his base will just think the deep state is out to get trump

and indicting a sitting potus could be held up in court for a long time and who knows what this SCoTUS will do

just pray he doesn't win in 2020 and there will be a gaggle of people lined up to indict him when he steps out of the WH

rkymtnman said:

i think it's a good tactic to wait (as long as he doesn't blow up the world)

he wont' be impeached at least by the Senate. and if the House does, his base will just think the deep state is out to get trump

and indicting a sitting potus could be held up in court for a long time and who knows what this SCoTUS will do

just pray he doesn't win in 2020 and there will be a gaggle of people lined up to indict him when he steps out of the WH

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he won't step out of the whitehouse if he wins in 2020...someone will kill him...i open the news every day hoping to see the headline "trump dead"....i don't care if his fat ass dies from a cheeto embolism, or of someone blows the rotten pumpkin he calls a head straight the fuck to hell...seems like it's the only way we'll ever get rid of his pathetic fucking ass...evil worthless traitorous pieces of shit don't die young

rkymtnman said:

for manafort being out of politics for so long to suddenly show up on team trump is not a coincidence. and manafort was very supportive of pence being VP too. i don't think it was just for the Christian vote. the Christians weren't going to vote for hillary no how, no way.

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trump and manafort have been close buddies since the early 80s, when the russians started grooming donald to be their asset

UncleBuck said:

trump and manafort have been close buddies since the early 80s, when the russians started grooming donald to be their asset

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true. i should have said US politics. paul's been in Ukrainian politics. and i think he saw this as an easy way to repay the oligarchs the tens of millions he owed them.

Call me an optimist, but I do believe the house will impeach and prosecute Donald before the US senate. The democrats like Mueller need to be extra careful in hunting this beast, ya only get one shot. The democrats are in no hurry to do Donald, there are lots of hearings on hundreds of subjects that will make plenty of bad headlines and news stories for Trump to come first, closer to the election would be best for the democrats. Trump will be impeached, whether he is convicted by 2/3's of the republican senate is another matter.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Call me an optimist, but I do believe the house will impeach and prosecute Donald before the US senate. The democrats like Mueller need to be extra careful in hunting this beast, ya only get one shot. The democrats are in no hurry to do Donald, there are lots of hearings on hundreds of subjects that will make plenty of bad headlines and news stories for Trump to come first, closer to the election would be best for the democrats. Trump will be impeached, whether he is convicted by 2/3's of the republican senate is another matter.

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Vote him out of office in 2020 and then we can arrest and convict and lock him up....no republican interference needed...

rkymtnman said:

for manafort being out of politics for so long to suddenly show up on team trump is not a coincidence. and manafort was very supportive of pence being VP too. i don't think it was just for the Christian vote. the Christians weren't going to vote for hillary no how, no way.

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Speaking of Christians, I haven't heard much from Jesus since the anti Christ Trump came on the scene, Jesus used to be every republicans best buddy! Jesus sure took a hike, I haven't seen hide nor hair, or even heard a peep about Jesus since ole Cheeto Jesus cast his spell over the republican party and cast out the patriots and true Christians. It didn't take that bunch long to go from all American christian patriots, to treasonous, heathen, orange devil worshipers!

At the risk of mixing metaphors!

Strong is the dark side with in the Donald, great power has he over the weak minded and evil...

doublejj said:

Vote him out of office in 2020 and then we can arrest and convict and lock him up....no republican interference needed...

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It might come to that, but an impeachment trial would answer a lot of questions and make the senate republicans own their votes in a very public impeachment trial. Many GOP seats are up for grabs in 2020 and the public hearings during the investigative phase in the house will stun many Americans and expose even more wrong doing. The democrats aren't gonna rush into impeachment, but their base expects it, Trump is guilty as sin on multiple counts and they will time the trial for maximum effect in the 2020 election. I don't think the republicans will want to go into 2020 with Donald as POTUS, much less if he is free to bitch tweet about how he was removed. America needs to do more than vote Trump out of office, there's the republican senate majority to deal with and the house majority to increase.

As soon as a new POTUS is sworn in the cuffs will go on Donald's wrists, they would perp walk him from the inauguration, his only way out would be to jump on AF1 and run for Moscow.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i don't know what to think about Pence, actually....as far as what he knew or when he knew it....i can imagine both a scenario where they keep him totally in the dark, just using him as a figurehead to fill the spot with someone evangelicals would support...and a scenario where he is totally implicit in everything trump does....not sure which one is more accurate....
i'm not happy about it, but i agree with Fog on this one...if Mueller had something concrete to hit trump with, he would have hit the motherfucker with it by now...trump is apparently just smart enough to distance himself from the people who do his dirty shit for him...and smart enough to obtain and hide dirt on them that he can use to influence them, to protect him, when no sane person would.
trump may go to jail, but if he does, it'll be after he's out of office and all the federal suits he's dodging right now catch up with him, and he won't be impeached...if he was going to be, it would be happening by now.

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https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-mentions-trump-met-silence-1333887

Pence helps clarify his own position....a very stupid position, apparently...now i'm just as worried about the possibility of
president Pence as i am about president dump

rkymtnman said:

i think it's a good tactic to wait (as long as he doesn't blow up the world)

he wont' be impeached at least by the Senate. and if the House does, his base will just think the deep state is out to get trump

and indicting a sitting potus could be held up in court for a long time and who knows what this SCoTUS will do

just pray he doesn't win in 2020 and there will be a gaggle of people lined up to indict him when he steps out of the WH

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i don't think it's a good idea to wait...the longer you leave his ass in office fucking things up, the longer it's going to take to clean up all the trump shit...the sooner he's gone, the sooner the country, and the world can breath easy and start working on things that actually will help everyone, instead of setting the entire world back every time he opens his mouth or signs his name to another useless, hateful, counterproductive piece of shit trump law...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i don't know what to think about Pence, actually....as far as what he knew or when he knew it....i can imagine both a scenario where they keep him totally in the dark, just using him as a figurehead to fill the spot with someone evangelicals would support...and a scenario where he is totally implicit in everything trump does....not sure which one is more accurate....
i'm not happy about it, but i agree with Fog on this one...if Mueller had something concrete to hit trump with, he would have hit the motherfucker with it by now...trump is apparently just smart enough to distance himself from the people who do his dirty shit for him...and smart enough to obtain and hide dirt on them that he can use to influence them, to protect him, when no sane person would.
trump may go to jail, but if he does, it'll be after he's out of office and all the federal suits he's dodging right now catch up with him, and he won't be impeached...if he was going to be, it would be happening by now.

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When they go after Trump with a senate impeachment trial, they are gonna have their ducks lined up, the house recently changed hands and the committees have just begun their inquiries and I'm pretty sure they will get their hands on Mueller's report to kick start things into over drive. Trump cheated several different ways besides colluding with the Russians to fraudulently obtain his office in the 2016 election and I figure Mueller can prove it all. Remember Trump and crew were ignorant, lazy, sloppy and stupid traitors who communicated their conspiracy on email and text for Christ's sake. The got Trumps lawyer (Cohen), his bean counter, his buddy Pecker by the pecker and a host of his minions in the bag, shit they've even got tapes too and literally tons of documents. Individual #1 is already an un-indicted co-conspirator in the election fraud case that put Cohen away and might put Pecker away too.

It hasn't been a month yet since the change in the house and the republicans have delayed appointing members to investigating committees, so it might take a few months to get the ball rolling or it might happen really quickly with the leaking or release of the Mueller report. The FBI and Mueller have been doing years of intensive leg work on this matter and can jump start the whole impeachment thing. It's gonna be interesting reality TV, as in Donald meets reality head first!