Guide to Nutrient Deficiency or Toxicity

Tas devil

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Yes but only have a 60x loupe to view.dr who mention it is russet mites...i took leaves to hydro store hoping the dude i knew had a scope but never.had abit of a geezer and said theres no speckles white marks between veins and said i dont have mites..ive got a microscope ive ordered coming early nxt week and will b able to have a better look.we have tomatoe russet mites and the 2 spotted red mite here..sooner that scope rocks up i will b able to cross bugs out i hope...
 

Go go n chill

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Yes but only have a 60x loupe to view.dr who mention it is russet mites...i took leaves to hydro store hoping the dude i knew had a scope but never.had abit of a geezer and said theres no speckles white marks between veins and said i dont have mites..ive got a microscope ive ordered coming early nxt week and will b able to have a better look.we have tomatoe russet mites and the 2 spotted red mite here..sooner that scope rocks up i will b able to cross bugs out i hope...
I’m new and not the best at diagnostics, so I’ll take a back seat and watch, good luck
 

Tas devil

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Me neither buddy.grown a long time though and have hardly ever had any problems to make me want to learn more..just a guy who does little to soil over the years and keeping it basic..went againt the grain this year and first time purchasing seeds from store and using different amendments and got some problems to iron out. plants are a good size though.where i am i have to keep them under 1.5 high because of neighbours..they are 2 metres wide and bout knee high atm :weed:
 

Go go n chill

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Me neither buddy.grown a long time though and have hardly ever had any problems to make me want to learn more..just a guy who does little to soil over the years and keeping it basic..went againt the grain this year and first time purchasing seeds from store and using different amendments and got some problems to iron out. plants are a good size though.where i am i have to keep them under 1.5 high because of neighbours..they are 2 metres wide and bout knee high atm :weed:
Neighbors aren’t aloud to see? Or trying to stay under radar? What about the smell?
 

Tas devil

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Under radar..yeah the myrcene coming out of them is real skunky..ive mostly grown bush plants unknown bag seed that only give off small amount of terpenes in flower.im still in veg atm.ive used dynamic lifter on grass around yard to mask it helps a little...id need a heap of lavender or something fragrant really .wind helps when it blows in certain direction
 

Go go n chill

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Under radar..yeah the myrcene coming out of them is real skunky..ive mostly grown bush plants unknown bag seed that only give off small amount of terpenes in flower.im still in veg atm.ive used dynamic lifter on grass around yard to mask it helps a little...id need a heap of lavender or something fragrant really .wind helps when it blows in certain direction
I can have up to 18 plants blooming at one time.... 3 carbon filters going and oh lord at peek bloom you can still catch a whiff outside sometimes. Freaks my wife the he’ll out
 

Tas devil

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Hahahaha..same here bud..wife walks out back door a smells it instantly ..you should see the look i get lol...shes not impressed..specially when i said wait till they are flowering.im abit worried actually.some cars will drive past and get a whiff.gonna b abit paranoid in nxt 3 months..fingers crossed..
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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oyster shell takes a long time to break down, wouldn't hurt to get a bag of dolomite lime and top dress a good handful into the soil around your plant. releases a lot quicker than oyster shell, and also contains magnesium carbonate. oyster shell is good, but should be added to a bed at the end of the year before you plan to use it, so it has time to start breaking down
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Under radar..yeah the myrcene coming out of them is real skunky..ive mostly grown bush plants unknown bag seed that only give off small amount of terpenes in flower.im still in veg atm.ive used dynamic lifter on grass around yard to mask it helps a little...id need a heap of lavender or something fragrant really .wind helps when it blows in certain direction
jasmine, spearmint, rosemary, chrisanthemums, lavendar, and juniper all have strong but pleasant odors. plant as much of any of those as you can out in your yard, and it'll help a lot covering up the odor
 

Tas devil

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Thanks Rog..i didnt know that with the oyster shell..i was talking to a mate about dolomite and put it past him if i could put it on soil now and said no.it has to b done at start..if i did say put some down how much should i use and how much would it raise ph..the other plants ph i forgot to mention in that last pic of mu first post is 6.8 6.9 i have 3 other plants in same area looking great but one looks like its about to show same signs in pics on one branch...they should start budding by end of this month ,maybe even a little earlier...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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it doesn't take a lot, maybe half a cup per plant, scattered under the foliage and then scratched into the soil before you water it in. your friend is right, it is better to do it at the beginning, but it will help now, any source of calcium and magnesium will help, as long as you don't over do it. even adding some calmag to your feed would help some.
as soon as you harvest your plants outside, get your spot ready for next time. add your amendments then and let them cook till you're ready to use the bed again. your ph will be closer to right to begin with, and you shouldn't have any big deficiencies to deal with next time around
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i grow inside now, because my longtime spot got sold to property developers.
when i was growing outside, i would come back a week after harvest, pull up all my old roots, clean up the area, and amend my spots for next spring. i would premix alfalfa meal, kelp meal, dolomite lime, and blood meal, and add about 2 pounds of that mix the each of my 4 square foot "holes", and work it in good. then i would do the same thing about two weeks before i brought my seedling out to plant. never had any deficiencies, and only had to top dress a couple of times per grow
 

Go go n chill

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i grow inside now, because my longtime spot got sold to property developers.
when i was growing outside, i would come back a week after harvest, pull up all my old roots, clean up the area, and amend my spots for next spring. i would premix alfalfa meal, kelp meal, dolomite lime, and blood meal, and add about 2 pounds of that mix the each of my 4 square foot "holes", and work it in good. then i would do the same thing about two weeks before i brought my seedling out to plant. never had any deficiencies, and only had to top dress a couple of times per grow
Sounds very much like my indoor mix! I trust you and your grow advice. I’m 11 weeks in with nothing but water
 

Tas devil

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Thanks Rog.i will def do it earlier nxt year..done holes bout 2 months before starting.ive overdone them not with too much but with everything lol...horse,cow,chook,mushroom.peat,oystershell,sulphur powder.kelp meal,bloodnbone,worm casting.compost.mycorrhizae etc.i think i missed a couple bongsmilie

I gave them bat guarno in liquid form with 1/2 cup of coconut water added to 9 litres.im not quite sure but i think im seeing a faint improvement..i think theres more mg to ca ratio in that has a little iron .it say 250mg of potassium so im not sure how much that is.i sort of wasnt seeing any improvement with the cal mag 5:1 ratio in the aloe and kelp ferment im using ..
 

Go go n chill

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Thanks Rog.i will def do it earlier nxt year..done holes bout 2 months before starting.ive overdone them not with too much but with everything lol...horse,cow,chook,mushroom.peat,oystershell,sulphur powder.kelp meal,bloodnbone,worm casting.compost.mycorrhizae etc.i think i missed a couple bongsmilie

I gave them bat guarno in liquid form with 1/2 cup of coconut water added to 9 litres.im not quite sure but i think im seeing a faint improvement..i think theres more mg to ca ratio in that has a little iron .it say 250mg of potassium so im not sure how much that is.i sort of wasnt seeing any improvement with the cal mag 5:1 ratio in the aloe and kelp ferment im using ..
Final verdict?
 

Tas devil

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Still the same..its not affecting the plants growth .cal mag in 5:1 ratio does bugger all.i can only foliar it every 7 days etc but im certain thats not the problem..i have 2 plants showing same symptom and on another in completely different soil and ammendments..i have some chelated iron im thinking of using on one nxt..pics.plant under shade got a little heat stress through lack of water.last 2 pics are the deficient ones..Screenshot_20190120-135742.jpg Screenshot_20190120-135712.jpg Screenshot_20190120-135657.jpg
 

JSheeze

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Hey what's up, I was hoping I could get some opinions on what I got going on.

Day 35 from flip, possible K deficiency?...
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Entire canopy...
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DWC


Tap water 265ppm. I fill 5gal bucket with tap water and add 1 scoop from small end of 'MaxiBloom' (1 tsp I think) scoop provided with bag. Then add 6ml of Liquid KoolBloom. Then add 1ml of Floralicious+. Then add 15ml Root Farm pH down to 5.78 (start ~7.6). Then finish with a little hydroguard (Southern AG d747).

565ppm total

5.75 pH but drifts to 6.05 and settles around there.

After I took these pics I pumped buckets dry. Pumped 5gal fresh (265ppm) pH-ed water back in (9gal capacity) to rinse. Then pumped it backed out. Then pumped 9gal 565ppm nutrient regimen back in.

Are they just hungry? I backed the light off a bit because its centered around what could be a hot-spot but seems other spots should be affected considering their close proximity as well, but they seem fine, so it makes me think its possibly nutrient related.

EDIT: pretty sure city water comes from diverted natural (crystal clear) mountain creek, thus the high mineral count...
 
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KonopCh

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Hey guys, I've got little problem around 3 weeks till finish. But it's going worse every day and really fast! I grow in coco, I'm adding 0.2-0.3 grams per liter of MKP and epsom salt with some extra calcium. And base nute of course.

All leaves (new and older) are lime green, despite I fed them full strenght. So I guess this is not N deficiency based on my previous grows and experience. Leaves are yellowing on the outside edges, center of leaves are lime green. Some leaves as you can see, have rusty spots on the edges, but not all.





I am thinking about S or K. But I think I am adding enough epsom salt (so enough S). Also, K at this stage I think it's well covered with MKP (also being in coco means a lot of K from it), I plan to use K sulphate maybe next week or 10 days.

Any opinions, please?
 
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