Beachwalker

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First week of flower day three.

@Merica_Mike. I finally got around to taking the pictures I said I would.

Some of the tips on the fan leaves & sugar leaves seem to be burnt. I'm not sure if it's because they finally need some nutrients or if it's due to the light being at 27".
They did not look like this till this morning. I raised the light from 27" up to 30" just in case. I also mixed a batch of nutrients as well. I did not feed them yet (soil is still a bit damp)

Aurora recommends letting the mix sit with an airstone for 24 hours so that's what I'm going to do. I do not have an airstone, I have a disk. I mixed the feeding in a 1 gallon jug and I just stuck the air hose directly in because the disk wont fit lol.

I looked at some postings and pictures of deficiencies, but can not seem to figure out what exactly is going on if anything. Everything I've read seems to indicate light burn but still being new I'm not really sure. That's why I decided to raise the light & mix up a feeding. I figured if it is the light, raising it should help. If it's not the light then the feeding mix should do the trick.

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Couldn't really get the pics to load, took forever so.. but I did see the first one, plant looks good not really starved at all and I didn't notice what you're talkin about on the tips in the pic I could see. what's your medium and what's your newt plan going forward, I'll take a look through your thread later
 

SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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Couldn't really get the pics to load, took forever so.. but I did see the first one, plant looks good not really starved at all and I didn't notice what you're talkin about on the tips in the pic I could see. what's your medium and what's your newt plan going forward, I'll take a look through your thread later
I'm in roots organics soil with their nutrient line as well. My plan is to give them half of what the feeding chart recommends one feeding a week and alternate between feed & tap water. They didn't look all that bad the last update but now they are looking a bit sad. I've got a few things to do this a.m. but once I am done I'm going to do an update with pictures. Thanks for checking in on me..
 

Beachwalker

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I'm in roots organics soil with their nutrient line as well. My plan is to give them half of what the feeding chart recommends one feeding a week and alternate between feed & tap water. They didn't look all that bad the last update but now they are looking a bit sad. I've got a few things to do this a.m. but once I am done I'm going to do an update with pictures. Thanks for checking in on me..
No prob Bob, I might start them at 25%, I don't know your soil but from what I'm seeing from those pictures I probably would not feed them yet, but will check your new pictures later

Today's the day that fellow Taxachusetts residents can start being overcharged and disappointed by legal weed from dispensaries, I saw the poor bastards lined up hours before they opened the dispensary doors on the news this morning LOL that's like adding insult to injury :/

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Edit: just got the last pics to load, they look good I don't really see what you're looking at regarding tip burn and I don't know if I start feeding them yet, they look green and healthy to me, maybe start very light nutes if any? Definitely not 50%. Will check the new pictures later
 
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SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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No prob Bob, I might start them at 25%, I don't know your soil but from what I'm seeing from those pictures I probably would not feed them yet, but will check your new pictures later

Today's the day that fellow Taxachusetts residents can start being overcharged and disappointed by legal weed from dispensaries, I saw the poor bastards lined up hours before they opened the dispensary doors on the news this morning LOL that's like adding insult to injury :/

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I'll gather the info on the soil and nutes in a bit.

Seriously, imagine being that desperate to actually wait in line for shit weed. I bet they think they are going to stock up for the holidays too. They are going to be extremely disappointed when they find out that there is a purchase cap on how much you can buy. O well not our problem! Good luck to em. I for one would not be waiting out in the freezing rain for a few grams of pot, that's just crazy. They look like they are lining up for their morning meet with the dope dealer on methadone mile.
 

SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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Update,

Girls are five weeks today & fifteen days into flower.

I've not watered them since saturday. I gave them each 3/4 a gallon of water then. With a quarter stringth of cal mag, grow, bloom and a few other additives. I was going to water them today but the soil is still a tad damp. I also wanted to see what you guys think before I go mixing a bunch of nutrients.

I did check the runoff saturday after feeding. It was 6.5 according to my super duper trusty ph drops. I also upped the watts on the qb from 230 to 265 and lowered it down to 18" (saw a few people with qb' who run them at that wattage and hight and was told by one this how they run theirs. They seem to be ok with this hight and wattage so far) above the Mexican Airlines. The BlackBerry is 19" and the Mexican Airlines is 27" tall.

They are looking a bit sad though. I really need to get a proper ph & ppm pen for my next run. I'm really trying to stay away from them so I can learn to read my plants instead of relying on technology. I know dumb idea.

I do have a cheap ppm/ec pen. I did however throw away my notes from saturday. If I remember correctly the ppm of my tap water was 100 or so and the ec was around 260. When I mixed the feed the ppm got to about 220 and the ec was around 347.

Also since they started flowering I have taken out the humidifier. The temp since flower started is still at 75 but now the rh is and has been at 55% since that time. I'm not worried so much about temps and RH as this is where I'm supposed to be as of now. I've kept all temps and rh in the range they should be and steady since the begining of my grow. The lightning was a curve for a few days but even so, I'm not worried about that.

I'm worried about the actual plants! I'm really not sure what's going on or what to think. They have been fine for the last few weeks even when I thought things were screwed up a few weeks back.

Sorry for all the updates. Having issues posting pictures.

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Beachwalker

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I'd start feeding them at a stronger mix than 25% of the recommendation. By that point in flower my plants are getting full strength 2-2-2 GH Flora Trio and some cal-mag at 2ml/gal., about 1000 - 1100 PPM

And then at 2 to 4 weeks depending on the strain I switch them to 3-2-1 bloom formula. If everything else is in order you might want to at least go to a 50% feed, and see how they respond?

There's nothing bad about them a little lime green, I do see a reason to question your pH, maybe a better meter would help, I use only Apera meters, very reasonably priced check them out on Amazon
 

swedsteven

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Your soil dont have much nitrogen in . they are asking for it .
you should let it dry a bit in between watering not all the way because is a organic grow but at least 2 inch off the top dry
What is your npk after mixing all those nut
To much boost pk lock nutrient in your soil .they asking for food
 

SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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I'd start feeding them at a stronger mix than 25% of the recommendation. By that point in flower my plants are getting full strength 2-2-2 GH Flora Trio and some cal-mag at 2ml/gal., about 1000 - 1100 PPM

And then at 2 to 4 weeks depending on the strain I switch them to 3-2-1 bloom formula. If everything else is in order you might want to at least go to a 50% feed, and see how they respond?

There's nothing bad about them a little lime green, I do see a reason to question your pH, maybe a better meter would help, I use only Apera meters, very reasonably priced check them out on Amazon
Thanks Beach. Yes I'm definitely going to get a ph meter instead of relying on the drops. To be honest the reason I gave them such a low amount of nutes is because I dont trust that ppm/ec pen. I will make a stronger mix tonight and feed it to them in the a.m.. or do you think I should just give them water since I feed them on Saturday? I've read to alternate between plain h20 and feed, however if you advise against that at this feeding I will do as you say. Obviously I trust what you say or I would not ask.

The reason I waited so long to feed is everything I've read about autos said to wait at least 4 weeks, then give them a light feeding. I did not expect them to start flowering at 3 weeks. I know they are on a internal clock but I was not aware they would flower before 4 weeks. Maybe it's due to the fact I have the lights on 24/7?

I'm just going to keep staying positive and learn from my mistakes.

Any how, I appreciate you taking the time to look over things and helping out again.
 

SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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Your soil dont have much nitrogen in . they are asking for it .
you should let it dry a bit in between watering not all the way because is a organic grow but at least 2 inch off the top dry
What is your npk after mixing all those nut
To much boost pk lock nutrient in your soil .they asking for food
Thank you. I actually thought it had too much nitrogen a few weeks ago as the plants were very dark green. I'm not sure of the total npk after the last feed but I will add it all up and let you know in a few. I've not let the soil completely dry out. I also do not give any water untill at least two inches from the top down Is dry like you said.

I know it's a bit hard to gauge run off with out the proper instruments. When I did check after I feed them the drips indicated that the run off is ph 6.5. The water I'm using is also 6.5.
 

MATTYMATT726

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So i read everything and ill give my thoughts. I thi k they look good tbh. I am NOT a soil grower, Royal Gold Tupar coco or go home for me XD but for soil i believe 6.5 is a pretty good ph level. The QBs are good at the 18" you got them at. Autos can start pre/flower at as early as 14 days so waiting for 4 weeks when you're soil didn't have alot of nutes probably didn't help. Autos only like half of what photos take in nutes so definitely feed them just not full strength. Keep cal mag as well cause led plants usually need them. 75/55 temps/humidity seems nice as well. I would assume 1000/1200 ppms is a nice food for photos without killing them so being at the 374 counting your water is less than half. I don't even mess with ppms. I ph to 6.0 and feed my coco every other day when handwatering so there might be others that can offer more on th ppm advise. For sure get some food into them but otherwise looking good.
 

SoMe_EfFin_MasS_HoLe

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So i read everything and ill give my thoughts. I thi k they look good tbh. I am NOT a soil grower, Royal Gold Tupar coco or go home for me XD but for soil i believe 6.5 is a pretty good ph level. The QBs are good at the 18" you got them at. Autos can start pre/flower at as early as 14 days so waiting for 4 weeks when you're soil didn't have alot of nutes probably didn't help. Autos only like half of what photos take in nutes so definitely feed them just not full strength. Keep cal mag as well cause led plants usually need them. 75/55 temps/humidity seems nice as well. I would assume 1000/1200 ppms is a nice food for photos without killing them so being at the 374 counting your water is less than half. I don't even mess with ppms. I ph to 6.0 and feed my coco every other day when handwatering so there might be others that can offer more on th ppm advise. For sure get some food into them but otherwise looking good.
Thank you!
 

Beachwalker

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So i read everything and ill give my thoughts. I thi k they look good tbh. I am NOT a soil grower, Royal Gold Tupar coco or go home for me XD but for soil i believe 6.5 is a pretty good ph level. The QBs are good at the 18" you got them at. Autos can start pre/flower at as early as 14 days so waiting for 4 weeks when you're soil didn't have alot of nutes probably didn't help. Autos only like half of what photos take in nutes so definitely feed them just not full strength. Keep cal mag as well cause led plants usually need them. 75/55 temps/humidity seems nice as well. I would assume 1000/1200 ppms is a nice food for photos without killing them so being at the 374 counting your water is less than half. I don't even mess with ppms. I ph to 6.0 and feed my coco every other day when handwatering so there might be others that can offer more on th ppm advise. For sure get some food into them but otherwise looking good.
^ this.

Adjust to 50% strength for a couple waterings and see how the plants like it, and then I would go to full strength asap if they tolerate half-strength eell

if you feel better go to 3/4 strength and step up that way, I would increase as Matty said above, and I would add at least one ml of Cal Mag in everything I mixed whether it was newts or a plain water feeding, you don't need to add the whole 5 ml/gallon but it's not bad to add some particularly during the stretch
 

Bosgrower

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First week of flower day three.

@Merica_Mike. I finally got around to taking the pictures I said I would.

Some of the tips on the fan leaves & sugar leaves seem to be burnt. I'm not sure if it's because they finally need some nutrients or if it's due to the light being at 27".
They did not look like this till this morning. I raised the light from 27" up to 30" just in case. I also mixed a batch of nutrients as well. I did not feed them yet (soil is still a bit damp)
You're moving the lights in the wrong direction!!! Bring 'em down to 12" and put something under the Blackberry Kush so its top is equal to the Mexican Airlines. At this stage they need all the light you can give them from this fixture. If you have any heat damage to the leaves (which you shouldn't) raise the light to 16" or 18". I'd also suggest a 6" fan to keep air moving through the branches.
 

Bosgrower

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[QUOTE=" I know they are on a internal clock but I was not aware they would flower before 4 weeks. Maybe it's due to the fact I have the lights on 24/7?[/QUOTE]

I know some folks preach 24/7 but plants need some down time too. 20/4 is more than sufficient
 
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