SoCal Calyx
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Beautiful!
How tall was this plant? What canopy depth do you shoot for with your 600 watters?
How tall was this plant? What canopy depth do you shoot for with your 600 watters?
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ShLUbY
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Not that tall. These were shorter than preferred. But I had a spot open and wanted to stay on schedule. Depth depends on strain. If they are not super leafy I’ll go for 2.5ft. Real leafy like this cheese a little less
Bubba's girl
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Finally all read up on this thread.
I admire your passion for growing and learning. Thanks for being here to help!
I admire your passion for growing and learning. Thanks for being here to help!
ShLUbY
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holy cow! that was a lot of reading
Glad you enjoyed it! Still a lot more to be learned, but glad we can all learn together. Cheers!
Bubba's girl
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Quick flower update:
Confidential Cheese @ 42 days in the 5 gal pumice SIPs (wish I would have done 7 gals....). Looking forward to seeing the swell on these last two weeks. The pumice SIPs are a smashing success... and I'm happy to say that all my plants that are not in no-tills are now in pumice SIPs. This has been fun
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Brainwreck in 20 gal no-tills @ 28 days (really liking how these are looking... killer frost production already!)
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Other happenings in the garden:
I transplanted my three phenos of Platinum Delights by Sin City Seeds. I'm flipping them when the confidential cheese is done in 2 weeks. They are in 5 gal pumice SIPs and are not going to be large plants by any means (hopefully lol) as I'm trying to figure out what pheno I want to keep out of the three (there are two plants of each pheno) and I'm running all six of them at once. But, as they are smaller, I probably won't topdress them and just let soil do what it does... produce the DANK. Also, in this pheno hunt, I have one of each pheno in a different soil mix. Both mixes are brand new: one is more diverse in terms of inputs, and the other is a slightly modified coots mix (+ greensand for sure, and I think biolive but can't remember off the top of my head...) with the NPK value amendments at 2/3cup per cubic foot of base and OSF at the regular 1/2cup per cubic foot. I posted one of the mixes a few weeks ago but I don't remember which one lol, I need to go back and look. So let's enjoy a little side by side soil mix along with this pheno hunt shall we? I'll get some pics and do a little analysis of my initial impressions of the different phenos in veg this coming weekend. Looking forward to this hunt, as I have never run a cookies strain before...
Will also get pics of the Pre-98 Bubba Kush this coming weekend (the ones I took over the weekend were not great). It's also in the more diverse, brand new mix in a 7 gal pumice SIP, and the onset of flowers at 14 days is looking and smelling amazing... can't believe how quick its coming along.
Thanks for stopping by; until next time.....
Your plants look healthy as can be. I'm curious to see if getting your PH dialed with boost yields and swell up the nugs.
I could be wrong here (done a lot of reading lately, can't always remember where I read what) but I think you are not doing much in the way of teas? More of a topdresser? I just wanna mention I recall Rasta Roy saying he wasn't happy on the yields with his water only recipe, once he started adding teas that's when yields came for him.
Dann0
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Yeah I find that stuff pretty cool. I have a degree in Chemistry and minor in Biology (I wanted to be a doc, then I saw the tuition and stopped at my BS degree lol)
If you have a little knowledge of what I call scientific Latin/Greek then you can figure out nomenclature in botany, microbiology, and especially entomology - hate you Tetranychidae family!
Science is cool, maybe not mainstream but I've never cared about that then or now.
Thanks for the link!
ShLUbY
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yeah the pH is still too high. the problem is that i've diluted these mixes with too much compost over time, which is a pH neutralizer, and I've lost that good acidity. My new mix so far is showing much better results. I also am seeing some improvement in the old soil with the acid mix fertilizer that I topdressed mixed with some fishbone meal, gypsum, and banana peels.
from now on, very minimal amounts of compost will be added to recycled mixes. it takes so long for SOM to be broken down, and it's not like we're losing it to erosion (which is the case for most agricultural operations, the main reason why they have none is that it all washes away from their poor farming practices as well as not replenishing organic matter). Here, we have more organic matter than we really need... so I see no need to add any at recycling, especially leaving roots in the soil, which turns to organic matter for organisms in the mix.
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CaptainSnap
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Glad to see things are still looking good over here shluby! How many times did you amend or reuse your soil before experiencing the issues you just point out? I was having issues too and I was on my 3rd cycle. I just cut it all with 50% peat/pumice mix
Happy gardening
Happy gardening
ShLUbY
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Couldnt tell you how many times, but it was at least 18 months of use, if not 24. Just added way too much compost over time. Cutting with peat and pumice is a good move imo
ShLUbY
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Okay, it's been a while... but just been super busy! So let's just dive right in....
Here is the first of the Pre-98 Bubba Kush in 7gal pumice SIP sitting right about 45 days... this one is in a new soil mix and is performing just as expected. probably gonna take it around 56 days. Can't believe how ripe it's looking at this point in time... dense and has a real earthy odor with a chemical kinda undertone. I've read it has a coffee tasting finish to the smoke... I'll be interested to see how that comes out once it's dried and cured.
Next up, Brainwreck also around 45 days. three are in 5 gal, one is in 7 gal. The 7 gal is behind the others, I'm guessing due to overwatering. I think the 7 gals are going to require more veg time after transplant in order to fill out the container better before flower. These are in the old soil mix, and I gave them a heavy topdressings of DTE Acid mix to try and battle the pH issue, along with fishbone meal, dried crushed banana peels, and something else but I don't recall off the top of my head. Performing much better that recent plants in the old mixes. I think the acid mix really helped.
The new platinum delights testers in flower about 16 days in. These are all in 5 gal pumice SIPs. I have 2 of each pheno, 3 phenos in total. Also, I have one of each pheno in a different soil recipe: one recipe is a beefed up coots mix (no MBP), running all amendments at 2/3 cup (except the OSF) and added greensand as well as DTE biolive; the other mix is more broad in terms of inputs including fishbone meal, alfalfa, biolive, greensand, and the standard coots (no MBP). So far both mixes are chugging along and looking good.
Here is my favorite of the bunch so far, #2 pheno. Has the most bushy structure and the most bud sites... but i'll be picking a keeper based on terps and flavors more so than structure.
That's all for flower room updates for now! See you all soon.
Here is the first of the Pre-98 Bubba Kush in 7gal pumice SIP sitting right about 45 days... this one is in a new soil mix and is performing just as expected. probably gonna take it around 56 days. Can't believe how ripe it's looking at this point in time... dense and has a real earthy odor with a chemical kinda undertone. I've read it has a coffee tasting finish to the smoke... I'll be interested to see how that comes out once it's dried and cured.
Next up, Brainwreck also around 45 days. three are in 5 gal, one is in 7 gal. The 7 gal is behind the others, I'm guessing due to overwatering. I think the 7 gals are going to require more veg time after transplant in order to fill out the container better before flower. These are in the old soil mix, and I gave them a heavy topdressings of DTE Acid mix to try and battle the pH issue, along with fishbone meal, dried crushed banana peels, and something else but I don't recall off the top of my head. Performing much better that recent plants in the old mixes. I think the acid mix really helped.
The new platinum delights testers in flower about 16 days in. These are all in 5 gal pumice SIPs. I have 2 of each pheno, 3 phenos in total. Also, I have one of each pheno in a different soil recipe: one recipe is a beefed up coots mix (no MBP), running all amendments at 2/3 cup (except the OSF) and added greensand as well as DTE biolive; the other mix is more broad in terms of inputs including fishbone meal, alfalfa, biolive, greensand, and the standard coots (no MBP). So far both mixes are chugging along and looking good.
Here is my favorite of the bunch so far, #2 pheno. Has the most bushy structure and the most bud sites... but i'll be picking a keeper based on terps and flavors more so than structure.
That's all for flower room updates for now! See you all soon.
ShLUbY
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Hey everyone! Been a while! Summer semester and mushroom hunting/edible foraging/gardening has been eating up all my spare time to make posts. Here's some quick happenings as to what is going on as of late!
The Brainwreck is going to start coming down tonight and hopefully I will finish tomorrow. This photo was at 63 days, I'm gonna chop them around 67, right about where I like them. The acid mix fertilizer topdress (heavily i might add) in the last of the off pH mixes has seemed to work really well! I'll get a better shot of them right before harvest tonight-tomorrow. Good bud size, great quality!
Here are the platinum delights that I've been working with. Super frosty. Very different growth across all three phenos. One is for sure going to the curb, just lacking in all departments, one has these finger like buds I'm posting here, and another has the typical round rock kush nugs. I'll get some better individual photos of these plants this weekend. I did forget to topdress them this round and realized it too late. SO these are just a product of the soil mix, which I am fine with . Just gonna be a little light in harvest. They're finally starting to get some nice aromas after the first 4 weeks I was like... wtf where are the odors? Now they are getting some smells to them.
And my most exciting thing right now is this Shangri-la from Jinxproof Genetics around 14 days. These things are absolute beauts! Have two of them in flower currently. Just topdressed them over the weekend and gave them a good haircut (pic shows pre-haircut). They are nice and bushy, great node spacing and lots of them, and just seems to be thriving overall. Not as much stretch in flower as I thought there would be. My original 9lb hammer (which shangri-la is a hammer cross) used to stretch like crazy! Can't wait to see this girl through the process. My buddy says he chops it around 50 days... we'll see about that....
That's all for now folks. Thanks for stopping by, sorry for the absence. I'll be back with some more updates soon . Enjoy the weather everyone, happy farming!
The Brainwreck is going to start coming down tonight and hopefully I will finish tomorrow. This photo was at 63 days, I'm gonna chop them around 67, right about where I like them. The acid mix fertilizer topdress (heavily i might add) in the last of the off pH mixes has seemed to work really well! I'll get a better shot of them right before harvest tonight-tomorrow. Good bud size, great quality!
Here are the platinum delights that I've been working with. Super frosty. Very different growth across all three phenos. One is for sure going to the curb, just lacking in all departments, one has these finger like buds I'm posting here, and another has the typical round rock kush nugs. I'll get some better individual photos of these plants this weekend. I did forget to topdress them this round and realized it too late. SO these are just a product of the soil mix, which I am fine with
. Just gonna be a little light in harvest. They're finally starting to get some nice aromas after the first 4 weeks I was like... wtf where are the odors? Now they are getting some smells to them. And my most exciting thing right now is this Shangri-la from Jinxproof Genetics around 14 days. These things are absolute beauts! Have two of them in flower currently. Just topdressed them over the weekend and gave them a good haircut (pic shows pre-haircut). They are nice and bushy, great node spacing and lots of them, and just seems to be thriving overall. Not as much stretch in flower as I thought there would be. My original 9lb hammer (which shangri-la is a hammer cross) used to stretch like crazy! Can't wait to see this girl through the process. My buddy says he chops it around 50 days... we'll see about that....
That's all for now folks. Thanks for stopping by, sorry for the absence. I'll be back with some more updates soon
. Enjoy the weather everyone, happy farming!
ilovetoskiatalta
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why the gypsum? is it for aeration?
projectinfo
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Its a ph buffer and source of sulpher
Among other things i would imagine
Strudelheim
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Gypsum for calcium, without the carbonate which rasies PH. So if you are happy with where your ph is, use gypsum for calcium source. It has sulfur as well.
MustangStudFarm
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It will raise your calcium w/o raising the Ph and it will raise your sulfur w/o dropping the Ph too badly. The reason for sulfur is to raise the exchangable hydrogen(acid). My last soil test is a perfect example of when to use gypsum because I didn't use any to begin with.
My exchangeable hydrogen is 1.5% and it needs to be 10-15%. My sulfur and calcium are a little low while my Ph is high, so gypsum would be perfect in my situation.
ShLUbY
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well from my own experiments with gypsum to help with pH... i found the sulfur seems to act first, and helped to acidify my soil a bit. but as soon as it was all used up and/or neutralized, i found the Calcium seemed to bring the pH back up. But i'm using it now with no addition of oyster shell flour as an experiment with my recycled mixes (gypsum, fishbone meal, and crab shell meal should provide plenty of Ca). I've found that once the mix is recycled too much, the peat becomes very neutral, and excess calcium in the soil seemed to jack my pH up into or too near the alkaline scale.
I'm also adding waaaaaaaaaaay way way less organic matter between cycles. I'm looking at it this way... the plant builds itself of inorganic carbon right? So therefor the roots a plant forms are an addition of organic matter once the plant is harvested, and the soil is recycled. So i'm just making sure to include as much of the roots as possible during the re-amending and composting of the mix. Now i'm only adding several handfuls of fresh organic matter (worm castings, malibu's, etc) because the roots will decompose into fresh organic matter anyway. I'm trying to delay the neutralization of the peat as much as possible now. I'm gonna start adding some fresh peat to the recycle as well.
gypsum is calcium sulfate. its a soil amendment that typically comes pelletized, but when exposed to water readily dissociates from its pellet form. I'm using it as a sulfur and calcium source.