PCAnywhere Software Installed On Voting Machines Since 2000

too larry

too larry

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TacoMac said:
A complete non-issue.

They used remote software to set them up and make sure they worked. Once polling stations are set up, they are disconnected from the internet, thus rendering the software useless. All data is then transferred to hard drives and transported to the main polling center for processing. Nothing is done over the internet.
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True. I have some experience in this line of work. The remote access is back at the election's office, not the polling place. It's there in case a card fails {as has happened when I was working an election} or something else fucks up. When the card failed, the SOE got on the horn with the support folks, they programmed a new card and it was driven out to the polling place. Since Florida uses paper ballots with an optical scan, folks were able to keep voting, and the ballets stored until the new card was in place, then they were all ran through the machines.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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captainmorgan said:
Place to check where you can find your voter registration status since many Democrats are being purged from registration databases. I'll be checking mine again just before the deadline to register.

https://www.headcount.org/verify-voter-registration/
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Isn't the very fact that citizen's voter registrations are at all in doubt a serious sign of something drastically wrong with our 'democracy'?

These rules vary wildly across the country. Who wants to bet that the most restrictive rules are those in the most conservative places?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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I may have missed it but did @ttystikk actually back up his OP with facts that the vote is being manipulated at the booth or after, or anywhere for that manner? I haven’t fact checked, it’s getting tiresome when it’s found that most threads are filled with innuendo with no real fact, kind of like a trump tweet :(. Sorry if I offend tty but really you should get better at what your trying to do, too easy to refute your position when you offer nothing to back it up. And yes, a lot of your rebuttal is filled with personal attack, the thing you vehemently accuse others of I might add.
 
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schuylaar

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ttystikk said:
Isn't the very fact that citizen's voter registrations are at all in doubt a serious sign of something drastically wrong with our 'democracy'?

These rules vary wildly across the country. Who wants to bet that the most restrictive rules are those in the most conservative places?
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the point you made about florida is even millennials were duped and turned away at the door during the primary..it wasn't clear that as an independent, we had to be part of the party.

i read a lot, often and yet, duped..what i allowed was someone telling me something and i didn't double check. that someone was at Broward County Supervisor of Elections.

so now you know.

 
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Budley Doright

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schuylaar said:
the point you made about florida is even millennials were duped and turned away at the door during the primary..it wasn't clear that as an independent, we had to be part of the party.

i read a lot, often and yet, duped..what i allowed was someone telling me something and i didn't double check. that someone was at Broward County Supervisor of Elections.

so now you know.
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So your saying 20-30 year olds were confused about the rules? Hmmm :(.
Nice of you to clarify with the edit BTW, I was about to ask about the reading part lol.
 
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schuylaar

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Budley Doright said:
I may have missed it but did @ttystikk actually back up his OP with facts that the vote is being manipulated at the booth or after, or anywhere for that manner? I haven’t fact checked, it’s getting tiresome when it’s found that most threads are filled with innuendo with no real fact, kind of like a trump tweet :(. Sorry if I offend tty but really you should get better at what your trying to do, too easy to refute your position when you offer nothing to back it up. And yes, a lot of your rebuttal is filled with personal attack, the thing you vehemently accuse others of I might add.
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this is not about software but will be because i have a point.

do you know what exit polling is? do you know what media did when it didn't 'match' the votes?

media changed their numbers.

there's a new app coming out but needs funding it checks them so they can't lie and change numbers it's in here..Democracy Counts which detects voter fraud outside ballot data it's a little long but the story must be told why:

 
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schuylaar

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Budley Doright said:
So your saying 20-30 year olds were confused about the rules? Hmmm :(.
Nice of you to clarify with the edit BTW, I was about to ask about the reading part lol.
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1. yes i'm saying 20-30's millenials were confused as gen x was due to info available..for me it was what i was told by Supervisor
of Elections office.
2. i can't tell if you're being sarcastic about the clarify.
3. watch the YT below this is where i live and what they did to ANOTHER democrat-his party left him so he's going indie this time and i will vote him again.

remember one thing: when the hammer drops on voter fraud in the US, it always comes down to Broward County Florida and/or Florida.

ever wonder why?

edit: if this doesn't change, i'm presenting myself to the Canadian Border and applying for political asylum.

@sunni :hug: did you become American or retain your citizenship?
 
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londonfog

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SneekyNinja said:
Prisons for moral reasons shouldn't be contracted out.

Software is specialist stuff the private sector can do cheaper, faster, better.

I'm not advocating privatization or anything, it's just a specific sector.
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Quick question and this is a thread about Pc and software and shit.
I'm about to get into a new hobby, that will also help me with parts for the shops.
I'm interested in investing in a 3-D printer. I have my eye on this one called a Ultimaker 3 coming in two different prices due to one having a larger printer size. Would this be worth the money or is their cheaper better models...and is it wise to invest in the one with the larger printing area.
I also have been looking at the Witbox, The Makegear and a couple others but the Ultimaker 3 keeps me coming back just for the quality of the planetary gears I saw and the type of software used.
Whats your take ?
 
too larry

too larry

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schuylaar said:
the point you made about florida is even millennials were duped and turned away at the door during the primary..it wasn't clear that as an independent, we had to be part of the party.

i read a lot, often and yet, duped..what i allowed was someone telling me something and i didn't double check. that someone was at Broward County Supervisor of Elections.

so now you know.

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Here the SOE has to post sample ballets in the local papers. It states clearly that you must be in a party to vote in that party's primary. It has been the same since I started voting in 1979, and I'm sure it has been like that for far longer. They also tell you when the books close as far as changing your party before an election.

The exception is non partisan races, like school board.

Pretty basic stuff.

Now there is a check box for voter registration when you get new driver's license. People check it, but don;t check a party. Then they get mad when they can't vote in the primaries.
 
too larry

too larry

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ttystikk said:
Isn't the very fact that citizen's voter registrations are at all in doubt a serious sign of something drastically wrong with our 'democracy'?

These rules vary wildly across the country. Who wants to bet that the most restrictive rules are those in the most conservative places?
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People move. Poor people move a lot. When you move, it changes where you vote, as well as what you vote on. All states have some way of purging those folks who are on the books, but are not at their old addresses. Most include mailing out postcards or letters to anyone who has not voted in a certain number of elections. It varies as to how many times they have to try to contact them before they are taken off the rolls.

If someone comes to a polling place, but are not on the rolls, the clerk will call the elections office and they can change their address and if they are in the right spot, go ahead and vote. If they are in the wrong spot, they give them instructions on how to get there.

It might be different in big cities, but here the pole workers at the precinct are your neighbors. They will go out of their way to help you resolve any issues you might have. 99% of the problems is from folks not being knowledgeable about the process.
 
TacoMac

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Budley Doright said:
I may have missed it but did @ttystikk actually back up his OP with facts that the vote is being manipulated at the booth or after, or anywhere for that manner?
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Of course he didn't because it's a non-issue. It's already been investigated.

Of the very few cases of voter fraud in this country, nearly all are done by absentee ballots. To date, not one legitimate fraud at a polling center has ever been uncovered.

But he does like to keep posting pure bullshit to try in vain to prove he knows something other people don't.
 
too larry

too larry

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schuylaar said:
this is not about software but will be because i have a point.

do you know what exit polling is? do you know what media did when it didn't 'match' the votes?

media changed their numbers.

there's a new app coming out but needs funding it checks them so they can't lie and change numbers it's in here..Democracy Counts which detects voter fraud outside ballot data it's a little long but the story must be told why:

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I'm not sure if you know they way an election works here in Florida. So I'll go over it.

When using paper ballots, they are tallied in the precincts where they cast after the polls close at 1900. An optical scan machine counts then as each one is fed into it all through the day. But when you run the "ender" card, the machine will tally the vote. Once everyone signs off on the tally receipts, the machine is hooked to a phone line and results are sent back to the office. Then the ballots are taken out of the machines, packed up and taken back to the office. The number of leftover ballets are compared with used ballots, and this has to add up to the number they started will. All ballots are accounted for.

The next week there is an audit. The SOE or someone in the office will draw precinct names out of a hat, and those ballots will be audited. If anything shows up wrong, they will do a recount. {it is very rare that an audit will turn up wrong}

The only way to change votes is on absentee ballots. And there are three folks there when anyone is working with them. I guess a crooked SOE could go in in the middle of the night and change votes, but it is hard to erase a mark on a paper ballot. Most spoiled ballets are for people who mark the wrong oval and try to erase. All those ballots go through a 3 member canvasing board before they are fed through the machines and counted. {the canvassing board is commonly the SOE, County Judge and Chairman of the County Commissioners or some one they appoint} They look at every absentee ballot, and 2 out of the 3 have to agree that it is valid. The biggest thing with absentee ballots is the signature not matching the one on record. Most of the time it's because the person has got old, and their hands shake.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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too larry said:
I'm not sure if you know they way an election works here in Florida. So I'll go over it.

When using paper ballots, they are tallied in the precincts where they cast after the polls close at 1900. An optical scan machine counts then as each one is fed into it all through the day. But when you run the "ender" card, the machine will tally the vote. Once everyone signs off on the tally receipts, the machine is hooked to a phone line and results are sent back to the office. Then the ballots are taken out of the machines, packed up and taken back to the office. The number of leftover ballets are compared with used ballots, and this has to add up to the number they started will. All ballots are accounted for.

The next week there is an audit. The SOE or someone in the office will draw precinct names out of a hat, and those ballots will be audited. If anything shows up wrong, they will do a recount. {it is very rare that an audit will turn up wrong}

The only way to change votes is on absentee ballots. And there is three folks there when anyone is working with them. I guess a crooked SOE could go in in the middle of the night and change votes, but it is hard to erase a mark on a paper ballot. Most spoiled ballets are for people who mark the wrong oval and try to erase. All those ballots go through a 3 member canvasing board before they are fed through the machines and counted. {the canvassing board is commonly the SOE, County Judge and Chairman of the County Commissioners} They look at every absentee ballot, and 2 out of the 3 have to agree that it is valid. The biggest thing with absentee ballots is the signature not matching the one on record. Most of the time it's because the person has got old, and their hands shake.
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That is all very confusing to 20-30 year olds. Can't you post a Jimmy Dore video to explain it?
 
too larry

too larry

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schuylaar said:
. . . . . .remember one thing: when the hammer drops on voter fraud in the US, it always comes down to Broward County Florida and/or Florida.

ever wonder why?
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There is no evidence there was vote tampering. Just because your "field numbers" don't match actual votes is not voter fraud. For the last two election locally, there has been a guy who goes around on election day saying he knows he's got this thing. That if everyone who said they were going to vote for him actually votes for him, he knows he is in easy. Needless to say, both times he got waxed. He came into my office with his head hanging. He said, "folks will lie to you."

Sure the lady SOE down there is a fuck-up. Isn't she the one who wasted tons of money on office redecoration?
 
too larry

too larry

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Unclebaldrick said:
That is all very confusing to 20-30 year olds. Can't you post a Jimmy Dore video to explain it?
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Don't tell anyone, but I'm doing a human conditioning study. I will expose the inhabitants of the Political section to fact based rational thought for a set length of time, and record the side effects. Later I will stop, and see how long the effects last.

I know it could be dangerous, but I'm going for it.
 
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schuylaar

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too larry said:
There is no evidence there was vote tampering. Just because your "field numbers" don't match actual votes is not voter fraud. For the last two election locally, there has been a guy who goes around on election day saying he knows he's got this thing. That if everyone who said they were going to vote for him actually votes for him, he knows he is in easy. Needless to say, both times he got waxed. He came into my office with his head hanging. He said, "folks will lie to you."

Sure the lady SOE down there is a fuck-up. Isn't she the one who wasted tons of money on office redecoration?
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fact: the evidence that COULD have exonerated..paper ballots..were destroyed by Supervisor of Elections MONTHS before the date of destruction is allowed. Tim Canova challenged them with a valid lawsuit which judge sided with Canova.

Dr. Brenda C. Snipes, Supervisor of Elections DWS BFF next to Hilldawg.

http://ballot-access.org/2018/05/14/tim-canova-wins-lawsuit-over-early-destruction-of-2016-florida-u-s-house-primary-ballots/

tim canova came into your office hands wringing not once but TWICE? citation?

buyers ARE liars..and when exit polling doesn't match 'true' numbers the media changes them..another FACT. what's in it for media? anyone? bueller?:wall:

didn't scott pruitt re-decorate his office too? where is he?
 
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