Largest dwc ever??

ttystikk

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i thought it was funny the guy recommending a waterfall. i use one in my res and it's noisier than any air pump i've ever run. lol. it makes me have to take a piss some times.

what's the saying: opinions are like a-holes, everybody has one and some of them stink.
I've found that waterfalls work as well or better than air pumps.

I like the gurgling brook noise if the waterfalls in the tubs, I find it relaxing.
 

fragileassassin

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Sounds like your closer to commercial grow op size. I'd be looking at a central Danner Air pump or similar. Like they do the large fish tank rooms.
The GH pumps are expensive but high quality and they tear it up for DWC buckets with 1 outlet per bucket
Im still within the laws for a personal grow for my state =)
Things did end up slightly bigger than intended though lmao!
 

OneHitDone

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I've been ditching components for years now. No air lines, pumps or stones, no chiller, no cooling... Yet each of those changes was accompanied by improved performance.
Instead leaky sweating water cooled led bars with big ass commercial sized chiller systems?
 

OneHitDone

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You'll have to let me know.I've been curious about those dual diaphragm pumps.
4th one I've purchased
Highly recommend them
Nothing wrong with high flow waterfalls either but I have seen my best root development with gobs of air movement from below. Plus my current setup isn't utilizing plumbing large enough to accommodate the water flow I would want with no air pumps :hump:
 

Airwalker16

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I've been ditching components for years now. No air lines, pumps or stones, no chiller, no cooling... Yet each of those changes was accompanied by improved performance.
Chiller is something I would never remove. It only benefits in my opinion.
 

Airwalker16

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4th one I've purchased
Highly recommend them
Nothing wrong with high flow waterfalls either but I have seen my best root development with gobs of air movement from below. Plus my current setup isn't utilizing plumbing large enough to accommodate the water flow I would want with no air pumps :hump:
That's why a new one was built with 2" returns.
 

rkymtnman

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I've found that waterfalls work as well or better than air pumps.

I like the gurgling brook noise if the waterfalls in the tubs, I find it relaxing.
the original question was for a quiet airpump recommendation. that's why i laughed, my waterfall is quite loud in my external res especially as the water level drops and the waterfall becomes taller. i have to touch my airpumps to see if they are running.
 

Airwalker16

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4th one I've purchased
Highly recommend them
Nothing wrong with high flow waterfalls either but I have seen my best root development with gobs of air movement from below. Plus my current setup isn't utilizing plumbing large enough to accommodate the water flow I would want with no air pumps :hump:
You do understand that those air bubbles coming from the air stones, even if they were right in the middle of your root ball, do not receive air/o2 from them, right? A bubble is a layer between air and air but in water, it's a layer between water and air. They don't mix, and won't be "popped" until it reaches more air, which is on the surface.
 

OneHitDone

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You do understand that those air bubbles coming from the air stones, even if they were right in the middle of your root ball, do not receive air/o2 from them, right? A bubble is a layer between air and air but in water, it's a layer between water and air. They don't mix, and won't be "popped" until it reaches more air, which is on the surface.
Who said anything about air stones?
Open hoses bro, such a high volume if air the roots are in air half the time then surrounded by water when the ginormous bubbles burst :hump:
 

Airwalker16

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So air stone or tubes... A bubble is a bubble no matter how big or small. The physics is the same. You're not understanding what I'm saying I don't think..
 
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