Indoor Fastberry Led growing slow?

Project Ponics

Project Ponics

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So my I have one fastberry auto from fastbuds in my 2x2x4 under a viparspectra 300w.

So everything has been going good so far, did some defolation a week or so ago, she seems to be growing fine but the buds are not getting big at all.

She's on day 48 out of 63... after tomorrow she only has 14 days until harvest give or take a day or two.

But I noticed my buds are not big at all, I was going to give her one last small feeding tomorrow, then slowly start to water/flush and the last few days I'll use clearex to completely flush to nutes out.

Given she only has 14 days left is she going to be a very small yield by the looks of it? Or will the buds blow up over the next two weeks do you think?

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MATTYMATT726

MATTYMATT726

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I think a few things. 1) defoliation can easily slow down autos. 2) 63 days? Autos can easily need more than what the breeder says. Most likley going longer so thats why they are small cause buds get fattest last 2 weeks before ripe. Once you see alot of weight pack on almost out of thin air its close. 3) being that they are most likley need more than 2 weeks stopping feeding is going to hurt them. Flushing is highly debatable. Flushing for 2 weeks even if it was the right time is way overboard. In soil flushing isnt really needed. In coco to flush is harmful since zero nutes are in the coco. Its always advised to lower nutes steadily. Your grow though so take my opinion how you will.
 
SwiSHa85

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Project Ponics said:
So my I have one fastberry auto from fastbuds in my 2x2x4 under a viparspectra 300w.

So everything has been going good so far, did some defolation a week or so ago, she seems to be growing fine but the buds are not getting big at all.

She's on day 48 out of 63... after tomorrow she only has 14 days until harvest give or take a day or two.

But I noticed my buds are not big at all, I was going to give her one last small feeding tomorrow, then slowly start to water/flush and the last few days I'll use clearex to completely flush to nutes out.

Given she only has 14 days left is she going to be a very small yield by the looks of it? Or will the buds blow up over the next two weeks do you think?

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She's got plenty of time to go. She's about to start really kicking into high gear. From the bud sites I see it should yield around 1-2oz. Looks like it should go at least 75 days.
 
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SwiSHa85 said:
She's got plenty of time to go. She's about to start really kicking into high gear. From the bud sites I see it should yield around 1-2oz. Looks like it should go at least 75 days.
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I hope so! from reviews this bud looks like it's going to be good! Right before flower I did also clip some of the lower bud sites that were so small and undeveloped compared to the rest of the plant it all would of been fluff, so I know that impacted it as well. Wanted to focus the energy up top on the branches, wasn't going to defoliate it anymore besides a couple days before harvest.
 
Budzbuddha

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Forget two week ... let her go longer.
She WILL BE DONE WHEN SHE IS DONE.

Breeder estimates for harvest .... are ...... estimates.

And do not defol autos ... they are plug and play ... “ once they pop they do not stop “
 
SwiSHa85

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Project Ponics said:
I hope so! from reviews this bud looks like it's going to be good! Right before flower I did also clip some of the lower bud sites that were so small and undeveloped compared to the rest of the plant it all would of been fluff, so I know that impacted it as well. Wanted to focus the energy up top on the branches, wasn't going to defoliate it anymore besides a couple days before harvest.
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Don't clip anything else. Just let her be till harvest day.
 
Budzbuddha

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Leaves will fade ...

Flowers will mature / fatten over time

Stick with bloom nutes - lower N since branching will have decreased by now anyways.
So leaves will fade as plant uses “ reserves “ from leaf.

Blurple grows work better with LIGHTER feeds as plant doesn’t transpire as quickly as say HID .
Sometimes around 30% less .....

Plus realize the vipar 300 is actually pulling LESS at wall so for one plant it will be ok.
Maybe 150ish .... I used to be a BLURPLE BOY ( vipar 600/900 ) and realized very quickly what they were really were doing. I actually kept my vipar 600 “ ( 278 actual ) for shits and giggles.
But getting a few grows out it is what matters.

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Good luck
 
PURPLEB3RRYKUSH

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Budzbuddha said:
Leaves will fade ...

Flowers will mature / fatten over time

Stick with bloom nutes - lower N since branching will have decreased by now anyways.
So leaves will fade as plant uses “ reserves “ from leaf.

Blurple grows work better with LIGHTER feeds as plant doesn’t transpire as quickly as say HID .
Sometimes around 30% less .....

Plus realize the vipar 300 is actually pulling LESS at wall so for one plant it will be ok.
Maybe 150ish .... I used to be a BLURPLE BOY ( vipar 600/900 ) and realized very quickly what they were really were doing. I actually kept my vipar 600 “ ( 278 actual ) for shits and giggles.
But getting a few grows out it is what matters.

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VERY VERY NICE PLANTS
 
SNOLEPERD

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I have had problems with fast buds, I have grown some beautiful plants by them, in fact I have pineapple express & cream cookies I have yet to try to grow, with fast buds there great or there not, this is from personal experience and my opinion, try sweet seeds less problems.
 
Project Ponics

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SNOLEPERD said:
I have had problems with fast buds, I have grown some beautiful plants by them, in fact I have pineapple express & cream cookies I have yet to try to grow, with fast buds there great or there not, this is from personal experience and my opinion, try sweet seeds less problems.
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Lol I got 2 bloody skunk autos that just went into flower in the tent with my fastberry.

Also got 3+1 pack of devil cream by sweet seeds as well coming in the mail in the next few days, along with a 3+2 pack of Girl scout cookies from fastbuds, and a 3 pack of badazz cookies og fem from seedsman.

I just germinated 3 black sugar fem seeds from seedsman, got them into soil this morning.

Good to know though.
 
Project Ponics

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SNOLEPERD said:
Here is a pic of a NL at day 35, allso growing killer kush a photoperid, last night planted, dark devel autoflower, Mohan Ram, and SAD, I did not buy the Mohan Ram or SAD from where you bought the bloody skunk but methinks we use at least 1 bank.
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Nice, I usually just order mine off seedsman if it's an overseas bank.
If it's a bank in the US where I live I order from OES. Haven't tried any other seed banks, haven't felt the need to I guess.
 
SNOLEPERD

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I knew it oes, Not 1 of my fastberry seeds would germanate, same with California snow, all my grapefruit did, I still have pineapple express & cream cookies but never got to them, sweet seeds allways pop never a problem there, and bealive me i can pop a bean, fast buds is an American co based in spain, even though other seed banks in Spain ship to the us original comes to mind, fast buds refuses to ship to the US unless it's a bank, dicks, so how long were they in a shipping container? How many people opens the breeders packs and messed with the seeds? How long were they laying around? In other words it not only went over the hill and through the woods to get to grandma's house, it was openend, Touched, handled, re packed, re shipped it's a wonder any of there seeds pop, try crop king, honest, reasonable, 5 star customer service, and I only had 1 problem in 8 years, they sent me 10 white widow autoflower seeds & 10 candy cane auto seeds, I don't see OES makeing up for those bunk seeds they sold me. Why would they? They have my cash, I never had a ck bean not pop, they just dont sell allot of autos is all, nothing exotic, although they just came out with lambs bread auto, never saw that strain since the 80s. Im not endorsing any bank, everyone has there favorite and swear by it thats all it is.
 
TacoMac

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It's a Viaspectra. It's not a good light. They're not going to grow anywhere near their potential. Get used to it until you get a better light.
 
SNOLEPERD

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I use California light works, a bit pricey at over $1000 for a veg master & bloom booster, a small footprint but great in a tight space, my friend bought a viperspecra 600w, the light is a bear at over 10 pounds, I've seen it work, a good veg light, not a good bloom light not enough red, it's a fair light for an autoflower, you get what you pay for.
 
Project Ponics

Project Ponics

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SNOLEPERD said:
I knew it oes, Not 1 of my fastberry seeds would germanate, same with California snow, all my grapefruit did, I still have pineapple express & cream cookies but never got to them, sweet seeds allways pop never a problem there, and bealive me i can pop a bean, fast buds is an American co based in spain, even though other seed banks in Spain ship to the us original comes to mind, fast buds refuses to ship to the US unless it's a bank, dicks, so how long were they in a shipping container? How many people opens the breeders packs and messed with the seeds? How long were they laying around? In other words it not only went over the hill and through the woods to get to grandma's house, it was openend, Touched, handled, re packed, re shipped it's a wonder any of there seeds pop, try crop king, honest, reasonable, 5 star customer service, and I only had 1 problem in 8 years, they sent me 10 white widow autoflower seeds & 10 candy cane auto seeds, I don't see OES makeing up for those bunk seeds they sold me. Why would they? They have my cash, I never had a ck bean not pop, they just dont sell allot of autos is all, nothing exotic, although they just came out with lambs bread auto, never saw that strain since the 80s. Im not endorsing any bank, everyone has there favorite and swear by it thats all it is.
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Actually my fastbuds I ordered from Seedsman. The bloody sunk auto from sweet seeds I ordered from OES. And yeah dude I fucking HATE the fact that they refuse to ship to the US and only allows a few other banks to sell their seeds. They have great promos and yet we can't get to any of them besides the gold rush promo a few banks have. OES doesn't even fully support the gold rush promo. I've thought about the same thing about how long they sit and what not, not sure how long you can keep seeds though until they go bad? If they even do? Not sure? Fairly new to everything. And yeah I see a lot about crop king, gonna give them a shot here in the future. Which even if they don't sell a lot of autos that's fine, like I said I'm new, this fastberry is the first auto I've ever grown, with the bloody skunks in the tent with them. I would truly only order more autos if it was a strain I REALLY want to try... which the red family from sweet seeds is all autos and all strains I really want to try. Still want to give red poison, dark devil and black cream a try eventually one day. Along with fastbuds green crack, heard good things about that strain.

TacoMac said:
It's a Viaspectra. It's not a good light. They're not going to grow anywhere near their potential. Get used to it until you get a better light.
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I'm about to order a 135w qb288 v2 for my 2x2, may possibly build a samsung strip led.
Then another 4x2 tent and more qb288s down the road.
 
MATTYMATT726

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Project Ponics said:
Actually my fastbuds I ordered from Seedsman. The bloody sunk auto from sweet seeds I ordered from OES. And yeah dude I fucking HATE the fact that they refuse to ship to the US and only allows a few other banks to sell their seeds. They have great promos and yet we can't get to any of them besides the gold rush promo a few banks have. OES doesn't even fully support the gold rush promo. I've thought about the same thing about how long they sit and what not, not sure how long you can keep seeds though until they go bad? If they even do? Not sure? Fairly new to everything. And yeah I see a lot about crop king, gonna give them a shot here in the future. Which even if they don't sell a lot of autos that's fine, like I said I'm new, this fastberry is the first auto I've ever grown, with the bloody skunks in the tent with them. I would truly only order more autos if it was a strain I REALLY want to try... which the red family from sweet seeds is all autos and all strains I really want to try. Still want to give red poison, dark devil and black cream a try eventually one day. Along with fastbuds green crack, heard good things about that strain.



I'm about to order a 135w qb288 v2 for my 2x2, may possibly build a samsung strip led.
Then another 4x2 tent and more qb288s down the road.
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You wont go wrong with the QB.
 
Project Ponics

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MATTYMATT726 said:
You wont go wrong with the QB.
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L30nPh3lps said:
This. Get the QBs bro, u wont regret it
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Thanks, I was definitely leaning more towards the qb v2 anyways with the 301s
I mean really either way the v1 would be just nearly as good either way much better than a viparspectra.
What my inital final set up plan is to have a 4x2x6 with two 135w qb288 v2s.for a 12/12 photo tent. Then use my 2x2x4 with the vipar for veg photos and a auto here or there, just run it as my 18/6 tent.
 
L30nPh3lps

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Project Ponics said:
Thanks, I was definitely leaning more towards the qb v2 anyways with the 301s
I mean really either way the v1 would be just nearly as good either way much better than a viparspectra.
What my inital final set up plan is to have a 4x2x6 with two 135w qb288 v2s.for a 12/12 photo tent. Then use my 2x2x4 with the vipar for veg photos and a auto here or there, just run it as my 18/6 tent.
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Being rectangular u can do a run with one light and plug in the second 135 with ur profits and be killin it
 
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