BERNIE 2020 *****OFFICIAL THERAD*****

Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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I don't get why anyone likes Bernie. He's like Bizzaro Trump. But rather than want capitalist control, he suggests that totally controlled government regulated, that you can't even cough or piss without permission, is the way to go.

That's no a socialist, it's a corporatist monarchist.

In the end both do the same, except Benie is a small time capitalist, who's a Barnum conman trying to get government to back him.

Never mind, he's exactly like Trump, but doesn't have the money of Trump.
 
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schuylaar

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Buddha2525 said:
I don't get why anyone likes Bernie. He's like Bizzaro Trump. But rather than want capitalist control, he suggests that totally controlled government regulated, that you can't even cough or piss without permission, is the way to go.

That's no a socialist, it's a corporatist monarchist.

In the end both do the same, except Benie is a small time capitalist, who's a Barnum conman trying to get government to back him.

Never mind, he's exactly like Trump, but doesn't have the money of Trump.
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well, you've been a member for a week..so there's that.
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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schuylaar said:
well, you've been a member for a week..so there's that.
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Bernie doesn't believe in worker co-ops, he believes in government regulation of corporations, which is similar to what Noam Chomsky believes, just not as hard core.

So tell me, what does the wise sage of nearly six years say to the wee peon of only a week?

How is Bernie the socialist he purports? He's at best a Social Democrat, at worst a corporatist.

Social democracy is the promotion of a mixed economy, in which the private capitalist sector is retained, but social welfare provisions are in place to make capitalist’s activity tolerable. (Bernie)

Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production with an emphasis on self-management and democraticmanagement of economic institutions within a market socialist, participatory or decentralized planned economy.(Not Bernie)

Libertarian Socialism is a group of anti-authoritarian[2] political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy.[3]

Libertarian socialism also rejects the state itself,[4] is close to and overlaps with left-libertarianism,[5][6] and criticizes wage labour relationships within the workplace,[7] instead emphasizing workers' self-management of the workplace[4] and decentralized structures of political organization.[8][9][10] It asserts that a society based on freedom and justice can be achieved through abolishing authoritarianinstitutions that control certain means of production and subordinate the majority to an owning class or political and economic elite.[11]Libertarian socialists advocate for decentralized structures based on direct democracy and federal or confederal associations such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils.[12][13]. (Which is me, and not Bernie whatsoever in any stretch of the imagination.)

What Bernie sets out to do is give capitalism a face. That if you can see a capitalist, you will think, "aww isn't that nice how he wants to sodomize me, but he smiles while doing it, instead of some fake corporation which can be a robot for all they care."

That there isn't me at all, but is totally Bernie. The Burnster would totally shit himself if given a world that had complete worker rights, who owned their labor outright, not what's now which is you own nothing and are given a worthless piece of paper.

All Bernie wants is to be seen as kind, but not actually have any compassion. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's a bullshit artist Barnum would be proud of.

Sorry to burst your bubble oh wise one, but POP!
 
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schuylaar

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Buddha2525 said:
Bernie doesn't believe in worker co-ops, he believes in government regulation of corporations, which is similar to what Noam Chomsky believes, just not as hard core.

So tell me, what does the wise sage of nearly six years say to the wee peon of only a week?

How is Bernie the socialist he purports? He's at best a Social Democrat, at worst a corporatist.

Social democracy is the promotion of a mixed economy, in which the private capitalist sector is retained, but social welfare provisions are in place to make capitalist’s activity tolerable. (Bernie)

Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production with an emphasis on self-management and democraticmanagement of economic institutions within a market socialist, participatory or decentralized planned economy.(Not Bernie)

Libertarian Socialism is a group of anti-authoritarian[2] political philosophies inside the socialist movement that rejects the conception of socialism as centralized state ownership and control of the economy.[3]

Libertarian socialism also rejects the state itself,[4] is close to and overlaps with left-libertarianism,[5][6] and criticizes wage labour relationships within the workplace,[7] instead emphasizing workers' self-management of the workplace[4] and decentralized structures of political organization.[8][9][10] It asserts that a society based on freedom and justice can be achieved through abolishing authoritarianinstitutions that control certain means of production and subordinate the majority to an owning class or political and economic elite.[11]Libertarian socialists advocate for decentralized structures based on direct democracy and federal or confederal associations such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils.[12][13]. (Which is me, and not Bernie whatsoever in any stretch of the imagination.)

What Bernie sets out to do is give capitalism a face. That if you can see a capitalist, you will think, "aww isn't that nice how he wants to sodomize me, but he smiles while doing it, instead of some fake corporation which can be a robot for all they care."

That there isn't me at all, but is totally Bernie. The Burnster would totally shit himself if given a world that had complete worker rights, who owned their labor outright, not what's now which is you own nothing and are given a worthless piece of paper.

All Bernie wants is to be seen as kind, but not actually have any compassion. It's all smoke and mirrors. He's a bullshit artist Barnum would be proud of.

Sorry to burst your bubble oh wise one, but POP!
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Sociology 101 this past semester?
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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schuylaar said:
Sociology 101 this past semester?
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It's called having a brain and able to comprehend words by looking up those words used, then comparing them to the ones used by actual people who aren't incompetent. Try it out. You might get hooked.

But you still haven't said why you don't believe what I say and think he's a "socialist." Does a socialist vote to fund multi-billion war projects to line his pockets and the lobbyists who support him? All at the cost of the people you lie to that you're "I'm for the poor."

Seems like to me he's your typical lying scumbag politician.
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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Buddha2525 said:
It's called having a brain and able to comprehend words by looking up those words used, then comparing them to the ones used by actual people who aren't incompetent. Try it out. You might get hooked.

But you still haven't said why you don't believe what I say and think he's a "socialist." Does a socialist vote to fund multi-billion war projects to line his pockets and the lobbyists who support him? All at the cost of the people you lie to that you're "I'm for the poor."

Seems like to me he's your typical lying scumbag politician.
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You've got it all figured out, huh? You know you're supporting free market capitalism posting here right? Or is that part of your plan?
 
Buddha2525

Buddha2525

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Justin-case said:
You've got it all figured out, huh? You know you're supporting free market capitalism posting here right? Or is that part of your plan?
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Brahma told the Buddha he shouldn't give up and tell the masses the path towards enlightenment, even though he thought it was too hard and no one would get him. After much convincing Buddha took Brahma's advice and did many lectures, which we have today in the form of sutras.

I get paid nothing for what I write. Such a online forum like this could also exist without capitalism too. Stating using what used capitalism, is stupid.

It's like telling a person born of rape, "hey, without rape, you wouldn't have been born. So rape is good. Here, let me rape you." Who would say such a thing?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Buddha2525 said:
Brahma told the Buddha he shouldn't give up and tell the masses the path towards enlightenment, even though he thought it was too hard and no one would get him. After much convincing Buddha took Brahma's advice and did many lectures, which we have today in the form of sutras.

I get paid nothing for what I write. Such a online forum like this could also exist without capitalism too. Stating using what used capitalism, is stupid.

It's like telling a person born of rape, "hey, without rape, you wouldn't have been born. So rape is good. Here, let me rape you." Who would say such a thing?
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You stink like ayn rand
 
londonfog

londonfog

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If your only son was running for a political office, would you as a father throw your support at your sons campaign. Would you at least endorse him ? Sanders says hell no and refuse to aid Levi.
What is up with this relationship ?
 
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schuylaar

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Buddha2525 said:
It's called having a brain and able to comprehend words by looking up those words used, then comparing them to the ones used by actual people who aren't incompetent. Try it out. You might get hooked.

But you still haven't said why you don't believe what I say and think he's a "socialist." Does a socialist vote to fund multi-billion war projects to line his pockets and the lobbyists who support him? All at the cost of the people you lie to that you're "I'm for the poor."

Seems like to me he's your typical lying scumbag politician.
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well, so far, i haven't said anything..sadly, there's pork..bills are almost never narrow and to get you must give. typically, the GOP gets while the Left get left in the cold..get it?:lol:

check his donor list..that's a good place to start.

'seems'..you're a rightie, I take it?
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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schuylaar said:
well, so far, i haven't said anything..sadly, there's pork..bills are almost never narrow and to get you must give. typically, the GOP gets while the Left get left in the cold..get it?:lol:

check his donor list..that's a good place to start.

'seems'..you're a rightie, I take it?
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No meth before posting, take your next bowl after posting.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Tonight's Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez rally for Kansas Progressive candidates in Wichita had to be moved from a venue that held only 1400 to another that would hold over 5000, because the number of RSVPs outgrew it in just 10 hours.

Those who think that Democrats aren't hungry for Progressive ideas and candidates are going to have to work up a serious appetite for crow...
 
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