Biden leads the pack

Who should be the the Democrat's nominee for POTUS?

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Cory Booker

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
    22

OldMedUser

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I came to this thread hoping to see a change. But all I see are great ideas and a bunch of confused liberals unsure about who to vote for in 2020. Same shit I saw in 2016.

Guess what? The conservapigs aren't confused. 90% of them love their candidate and 60 million plus will vote for him. Good luck libz.
As an observer I was appalled that Bernie got knocked off the slate so the Clinton corporation could put Killary up front. What a stupid move.

The far left is just as f'ed up as the far right but the US is going so far right they are about to fall off the edge of their flat earth. Not if the Dumpster can build his wall in time tho. ;)

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OldMedUser

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80 year old nut job racist = trump
He's only 70 and doesn't look a day over 90. ;) Definitely early signs of dementia tho. Bet his health care plan pays for his boner pills tho.

I typed in Vi agra before changing it to boner pills and got a notice that that's a banned word! wtf.gif rotflmao.gif

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OldMedUser

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The Dems need a fresh younger person with a spot clean slate. Whom ever must have a solid history of being in support of policies which the everyday joe young or old could benefit from.
Liking this new Democrat latino for prez but too young yet. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Saw her on the Late Show last night and she's not only hot as hell but smart as hell too! Like a screwable Bernie sanders!

That's the kind of fresh young blood we could use here in Canukistan. Trudy might be hot for the ladies and gay dudes but I'm an old white WASP and can see past the fog of his bullshit to the core of his lying Liberal bastard center!

Do not be confused by the smoke and mirrors my dear audience but watch me pull this obese rabbit out of my ass! :D

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SB85

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Liking this new Democrat latino for prez but too young yet. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Saw her on the Late Show last night and she's not only hot as hell but smart as hell too! Like a screwable Bernie sanders!

That's the kind of fresh young blood we could use here in Canukistan. Trudy might be hot for the ladies and gay dudes but I'm an old white WASP and can see past the fog of his bullshit to the core of his lying Liberal bastard center!

Do not be confused by the smoke and mirrors my dear audience but watch me pull this obese rabbit out of my ass! :D

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I want to see if Cortez really stands behind the ideals she ran on/claims to support. She needs to put some action/not forget about the promises that were made by her to the public. There's been plenty of politicians whom have caught a case of amnesia once been elected to office.
 

OldMedUser

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I want to see if Cortez really stands behind the ideals she ran on/claims to support. She needs to put some action/not forget about the promises that were made by her to the public. There's been plenty of politicians whom have caught a case of amnesia once been elected to office.
So very true. Power is not only intoxicating but addictive when in the wrong hands.

That's the very basic wrong with the 'merikan way of electing their leaders and is rapidly creeping into our Canukistanian leaders way of doing business too. Not like it hasn't been like that here for decades but getting much worse as we tend to follow the leaders down south,

Giving corporations the vote was one of the most destructive decisions ever made re: political decisions. Everyone ends up in someone's pocket whether they like it or not. I relate it to what happens with Mexican police, mayors etc. They are given a choice. Lead or Gold? No matter how pure your intentions are you have no choice but to choose the golden path even tho it leads to hell.

Tho not as drastic I hope, (remember the Kennedys), the US political system is a mirror image of what's happening in Mexico. Play by the rules or die a painful political death.

Lobbyists spend billions of dollars just wining and dining politicos to their sides while their parent corporations throw billions more at candidates that will suckle the corporate teat without complaint.

It's totally corrupt and worse than wrong it's f'n criminal! Republicunt or Democrap makes no difference to the average human. Same shit, different pile!

As I grew up in the 50s-60s we got by just fine with my dad alone working at a meat packing plant. Once myself and my younger sisters were old enough to be in school all day my mom went back to work in factories and we had even more good stuff tho never lacked for good food and all sorts of extras before she did. Dad got a nice 16' cabin cruiser. Older but mom and him sanded, scraped and painted it's bottom so it could sit in the water most of the year and head out in the saltchuck for fun fishing trips I still remember fondly. We still have the home made family cabin on a beautiful lake about 7 hours due north of Vancouver, BC.

Dad ended his service in WWII as a chief gunnery officer on destroyers in His Majesty's Royal Navy after the end his Pacific service which came after being a convoy runner in the Atlantic in the early years. Long before the yanks showed up and claimed victory. What a publicity rip-off that was. Both world wars they show up late and pound their chests like it was them that won. Still it was a huge effort and the Krauts would have had it without all the tanks, ships, planes etc that the US supplied before they jumped in and tossed all those tough as nails men into the fray.

Thanks for the mop-up guys but we almost had the Hun beat down before you showed up. ;)

What they did to the Japs is still up for debate but everybody is glad they got shut down. No nukes would have meant another few years and how many lives before they finally called it quits. They didn't have a navy left but they would have fought to the last man on their home turf in a conventional conflict.

Back to the original thought that it's near impossible now for a one parent to supply the kind of life that we enjoyed back then unless they are professionals making huge bux. My mom grew up on a prairie farm and survived the depression. Our pantry was stocked with enough canned food, that she canned, to live for a few years if the Soviet threat of nuclear war ever came to pass. Dad never owned guns but sure had access and could shoot a flying eagle out of the sky which I saw him do at the cabin when one kept trying to snatch Anita, Mom's little poodle, off the beach in front of the cabin. I was about 11 and it totally made dad a real hero in my young eyes. Used an old Brit .303 his best bud owned and had built a cabin next to ours. Just went over and grabbed it when Morris wasn't up there, poured a stiff rum and coke and tied that poodle up at the end of the dock. 5 min later that bald eagle dropped off the top of a huge pine across the lake and without a single wing beat glided in for the kill. About 20' from the dock dad fired one shot and sent me out in the boat to bring it in. Head blown clean off. The one and only time I ever saw my dad fire a gun. He never talked about what he did in the war but mom still has a half dozen medals he brought home from that. Sure wish I'd known him better. :(

The same conditions that brought on the Great Depression are fermenting now. Trump is pushing it over the edge so can up all your fruits and veggies as we'll all need them real soon!

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ttystikk

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Sanders hasn't.

In Colorado, a bill thatwould have ensured universal healthcare in that state failed by 80% of the vote. As tty complained, "they told us how much it would cost".
Don't put words in my mouth. That isn't what I said and you know it.

It failed for funding reasons but it was not as simplistic as you and Buckwit try to frame it.
 

ttystikk

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It would much better for them to explain/break down the benefits of what such system would offer the everyday joe.. They can't just expect ppl to jump behind an idea with no info
The idea of universal health care polls are 70% in favor. It is not a simple proposal and that's how the Corporatists and their lackeys have been working to confuse and obfuscate the issues involved. In fact, that's one of the main reasons the Medicare for all bill failed in Colorado.
 

SB85

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The idea of universal health care polls are 70% in favor. It is not a simple proposal and that's how the Corporatists and their lackeys have been working to confuse and obfuscate the issues involved. In fact, that's one of the main reasons the Medicare for all bill failed in Colorado.


Health care is an issue that folks on the left and right could relate to. many have had loved ones rejected medical care due to insurance issues.
 

ttystikk

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Health care is an issue that folks on the left and right could relate to. many have had loved ones rejected medical care due to insurance issues.
Bernie toured the country and everywhere he went it was a popular part of his message. That includes Chump strongholds like West Virginia and Kentucky.
 

Fogdog

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Don't put words in my mouth. That isn't what I said and you know it.

It failed for funding reasons but it was not as simplistic as you and Buckwit try to frame it.
Exactly. Colorado voters blanched at the price tag.

You cried like a bitch about how they made a mistake by informing voters how much it would cost.
 

ttystikk

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Exactly. Colorado voters blanched at the price tag.

You cried like a bitch about how they made a mistake by informing voters how much it would cost.
You're still misrepresenting what I said.

Stop fucking lying and attributing it to me, clown.

I said that the campaign for the plan did not do a good job of comparing the costs of the plan with what consumers were already paying.

If you have to be dishonest with your commentary, maybe it's because you're actually wrong.
 
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