will my tops fill in

Kipn

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hi people
so from pre flower till now its been 1 week and 4 days and plants have started stretching as expected but kind of look empty along stems just a few fibers do you think it will fill in . i am expecting abit more stretch but not by much. photos attached
 

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hibok

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Only way for them to fill in is open up the canopy. U need to take some leaves off in steps. A few a day till lights penatration is done.
Don’t just go nuts and take them all off in one sitting. Try to minimize as much stress.
 

Kipn

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Only way for them to fill in is open up the canopy. U need to take some leaves off in steps. A few a day till lights penatration is done
i have done most i feel need to be removed
im not use to such little growth on stems havent seen that in a any of my grows before
 

hotrodharley

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They'll fill in. Add Great White or Mykos or another WP mycchoriza additive. It helps nutrient uptake. They look good.
 

hotrodharley

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I run them in hydro and in dry hydro (peat, perlite) and add 1 tsp of molasses per gallon of feed or solution. To feed the beneficial organisms.
 

Kipn

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I run them in hydro and in dry hydro (peat, perlite) and add 1 tsp of molasses per gallon of feed or solution. To feed the beneficial organisms.
i know this is a dumb thing to say/ask but i didn't think coca/hydro had beneficial organisms as i thought when using salts to feed your plant you are bypassing the need for microbs and stuff to convert the food to what the plant can use
ive been told people use molasses but always though it was for organics
 

hotrodharley

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That's just for questions related to hydroponics. You can click back for other applications. But it's a standard for me. Cuttings - prep as usual, dip in Clonex and then in Great White. Right into your medium.
 

hotrodharley

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i know this is a dumb thing to say/ask but i didn't think coca/hydro had beneficial organisms as i thought when using salts to feed your plant you are bypassing the need for microbs and stuff to convert the food to what the plant can use
ive been told people use molasses but always though it was for organics
No dumb questions. Plenty of dumb answers but no dumb questions.
 

Kipn

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Understand the question and it's not dumb. Same one I had. Check this reference. I was educated by a professional grower here in Alaska but I like to check.

https://mycorrhizae.com/hydroponics/
leanings fun haha so pretty much mycorrhizae and other beneficial bacteria's are not necessary for hydroponics but when added correctly can greatly increase plants health and growth
so much contradictions in growing or just bad information given out by uneducated people
i will look in to molasses abit more and other additives
would you use molasses from start of flower or the last few weeks
ive use other additives like b12 and bud candy but to be honest i think there junk but the application is simply
 

hotrodharley

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Basically the mycchoriza attaches to the roots and increases nutrient uptake. That's the short of it. These guys had 26,000 square feet under cover and were adding a 4th room to bring it up to around 35,000. I watch everything they do. Including swapping out the CMH lights back to HPS .

One pro here grows under LED down in the Matanuska Valley. I'm sure others use it but I'm not aware of any big ops.
 

hotrodharley

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I find the mycchorizae much more effective than Big Bud because it increases the phosphorus uptake especially. For organics check Jobes Azalea and Rhododendron Organic feed. Another pro here tipped me to that. About $6 for a good size bag.
 

Kipn

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I find the mycchorizae much more effective than Big Bud because it increases the phosphorus uptake especially. For organics check Jobes Azalea and Rhododendron Organic feed. Another pro here tipped me to that. About $6 for a good size bag.
sounds ok good price i will have to do a small run and try some different organics not super keen on added stuff im unsure on on this run
off topic question iron deficiency got a few clones that are showing sines of it. is that normally from ph being off or does it come more from over watering
i keep ok track of ph and watering i personally believe its the light spectrum as only started after moving to a different light
is there any dative that will help with trace minerals that you would suggest
 

hotrodharley

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OK according to the pro guys if you are not growing in soil you're in hydro. We supply all nutrients. So organic or whatever they say all nutrients basically were developed for hydroponics. It makes sense to me.
 
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