Greenpoint seeds!!

Are all the Testers the "new" WildWest series that Gu~ mentioned a while back,few weeks or so ago??

Or is there a possibility there's more stuff behind curtain #3?

Chunky Stool said:

Agreed.
Chem is better when it doesn't dominate.

Stem rubs on my bodega bubblegum have been promising. Mostly candy with chem accents.
Texas butter is the opposite. All chem so far...

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I’m thinking if you want less Chemdog influence (in the aroma) you need to hunt the crosses that have fairly different profiles. Both of the Jelly Pie female phenotypes I found (out of 5 seeds, 3 females and 2 males) have a dominant grape aroma to their stem rub. One is definitely a Grape Pie leaner with more funk and a sweeter finish, where the other has that Chemdog chemical cleaner bite to the rub.

rikdabrick said:

Get your boron to 1/1000th of your Calcium (assuming you have an adequate amount of calcium) and your hollow stems will fill up

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Is this commonly accepted in horticulture or plant biology? I always assumed the hollow stems was environmental. When my plants are at their healthiest, they never have hollow stems. I’d think that’d be problematic in a windy environment (having hollow stems).

suthrngrwr said:

Is this commonly accepted in horticulture or plant biology? I always assumed the hollow stems was environmental. When my plants are at their healthiest, they never have hollow stems. I’d think that’d be problematic in a windy environment (having hollow stems).

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It is a common Boron deficiency symptom. I used to get Hollow stems all the time. Now I send in soil samples for testing four to six times a year and once I got my Boron levels balanced correctly all the stems have filled in. I think I've had one plant with some Hollow stems in the last three years and it was probably just a Boron hog or maybe that particular spot didn't get enough boron. And I have plants that I've been running since I used to always have hollow stems that now have solid stems

suthrngrwr said:

Is this commonly accepted in horticulture or plant biology? I always assumed the hollow stems was environmental. When my plants are at their healthiest, they never have hollow stems. I’d think that’d be problematic in a windy environment (having hollow stems).

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I have super healthy plants with hollow stems,I'm not sure and never really questioned it because it never effected growth.could be from unusually fast growth in an artificial environment. Seems like I have an OG that runs in the same buckets that doesn't have those hollow stems at all.

Heisengrow said:

I'm in hydro using part a and b solutions,I'll look into that and see if it's something separate I can add in

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I'm pretty sure you could use an amino acid chelated boron in hydro. You might even be able to use borax. That's what I use in soil for boron. It's About 10.8% boron. There's also Solubor. Just be careful that you don't use too much. It's not hard to get a boron toxicity either.

Like I said I only adjust my soil prescriptions to have 1 part boron per 1000 parts calcium which is a good ratio. I run really high calcium in my soil too so it's necessary to have an adequate amount of boron.

Well I'm not trying to start an argument, cause I honestly don't know the answer, but I'm not sure I agree with the boron. Isn't it proven that the weight/mass ratio to strength is greater for a hollow tube as compared to a solid one. Maybe it's just genetics and unknowingly as humans we have selected for this trait?

Heisengrow said:

Ive ran clones on a second and third run that did it after sprout but after the plant matures they stopped doing it,It might be a growth or humidity thing not sure,Maybe someone else has a more scientific answer on the hollow stems.My Ghost cut is so hollow i cant hardly bend them over without them breaking.

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I've noticed the best weed has really hollow stems.

Wonder if I just stole anyone' cackleberry in the reverse auction just then
$37

Bakersfield said:

I've noticed the best weed has really hollow stems.

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Thats what i read,I also read that breeders throw away males and females that dont have hollow stems to sort through the ones that do.I just never paid attention to them really cause i never thought nothing of it.When i really think about it it seems all my keepers had hollow stems before i decided to keep them.

HamNEggs said:

Well, went to the mail and found the package from Gu. I had only purchased 2 packs of the s1's and he was kind enough to include 3 packs including a Copper Chem. Almost makes me feel bad, ok it does. I am more than satisfied with the end result. I wish I had some GPS bud porn to put up but this is only going to be my first GPS run. Hmm Cackleberry, Copper Chem or Cookies and Chem...

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Someone posted some fire looking nugs of the cackleberry. I may have to put that one on my radar.
I just started a pack of cnc.
If the copper chem has decent finish times I may look into that one too, I've seen some pretty hefty pics of it posted recently.

ruby fruit said:

Wonder if I just stole anyone' cackleberry in the reverse auction just then
$37

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Fuck it ruby, fastest gun wins.

Spondylo Grow said:

Of the Deputies that I ran (females) I had two phenos, 1 tall and 1 short, like you've described. The shorter one was the Banner (strawberry) leaning pheno. Larger and heavier buds. Better structure. Better yield, density and bag appeal. The taller deputies were kind of lanky and had smaller clusters of buds which yielded less for me. The smell and taste has more funk and (lemon) chemical cleaner to it. Potency was much better on the taller phenos, though, which would make it my keeper choice if I was only keeping one. Just for the potency. I am sure I could grow it out and do much better with it if I ran it a few times, so no worries there. You could keep both male phenos and mix the pollen?
And I may not be the best judge, but that is a pretty sexy looking Jelly Pie male you have there, @sourgummy.

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Thanks dude, that's the kind of info I've been looking for. I have one really squat/bushy yet to show sex. So either way, I'll get some nice bud, or some pollen from that

Edit. Sorry @rikdabrick somehow I quoted you too on that lol

socaljoe said:

Fuck it ruby, fastest gun wins.

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that was me the other day when Gu posted the extra 5 packs. I got the email and bam, sniper scoped a few packs. It crossed my mind to allow some others to get the testers and me not to take 3 packs, but I will be posting pics up as much as anyone probably so I felt not guilty that they are in good hands for us here to see.

sourgummy said:

that was me the other day when Gu posted the extra 5 packs. I got the email and bam, sniper scoped a few packs. It crossed my mind to allow some others to get the testers and me not to take 3 packs, but I will be posting pics up as much as anyone probably so I felt not guilty that they are in good hands for us here to see.

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Right on, congrats on grabbing some. Can't wait to see these testers getting grown out.

My Western Wizards arrived today and i immediately dropped four into Root Riot cubes. I am excited about this one. I am also going to drop four Sundae Stallions or four Bounty Hunters when they arrive, not sure which one yet.

rikdabrick said:

It is a common Boron deficiency symptom. I used to get Hollow stems all the time. Now I send in soil samples for testing four to six times a year and once I got my Boron levels balanced correctly all the stems have filled in. I think I've had one plant with some Hollow stems in the last three years and it was probably just a Boron hog or maybe that particular spot didn't get enough boron. And I have plants that I've been running since I used to always have hollow stems that now have solid stems

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Who do you use for soil testing?

Heisengrow said:

Thats what i read,I also read that breeders throw away males and females that dont have hollow stems to sort through the ones that do.I just never paid attention to them really cause i never thought nothing of it.When i really think about it it seems all my keepers had hollow stems before i decided to keep them.

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The school of thought is that thick stems = most likely a good hemp plant when choosing males. Better at making fiber than buds. I would only eliminate plants based on this if I were doing big number selections. The higher number of selections the more rigid you tend to get when deciding what to keep or throw away.

Lurpin said:

Maybe I'm not paranoid enough, I've grown for too long illegaly, and legally, but I find it to be a big waste of time and energy for law enforcement to be doing that. I think there would be easier ways to catch growers behind the "green curtain". Like FLIR in a helicopter..

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If you got money for a lawyer then the FLIR isn't gonna work. Illegal search and seizure. Cops can't just assume you're growing weed, you could be growing carrots, none of their business.

The cops need controlled purchases to get solid bust. I have a few friends beat growing charges because cops thought they were "the law", the judge seen it differently.

So yes cops/detectives in Southern/rural areas will 100% make fake online personas in order to catch low level crooks.

I have had cops go through my garbage in the middle of the night in search of evidence, well I assume they were cops since they were in an unmarked white caprice/crown vic type car and when I looked out the window they floored it off. I had a creep "friend" that I think tried to fuck me over but I'm no spring chicken and not one to be caught slipping.

When I was in that illegal state I would take trash to random dumpsters or leaves and shit I would backpack out to the wood via a nice long bike ride.

Paranoia keeps you out of prison, lol.

Man I have to say my CnC female is a turd so far. Slow growth, almost no side growth and is just gonna be a bean pole with some buds on it. Kind of disappointed.

I got a new computer coming Wednesday so I'll post up pictures of the CnC and the c99 that are about the same age just to show I ain't bullshitting.

I honestly thought the CnC would blow away the peakseedsbc c99 but it ain't happening yet. C99 has better structure, less stretch and so far more resinous.

Not sure if I'll keep the clone from CnC unless she just has that good of smoke because right now it's looking like I got a dud.

After a couple days with the deputy I can say its top shelf.