Clawed Leaves
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Exotica
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Ok great it’s good to finally know. I couldn’t find the answer on google!
The plant is looking dark green and they’re curling in and under. I have a feeling it’s a ph issue as I tested the run off a few days ago and it was coming out 4.9!! So I’m in the process of correcting atm and just wanted to know if those particular leaves would now stay curled or go back to normal if and when the issue is fixed.
The plant is looking dark green and they’re curling in and under. I have a feeling it’s a ph issue as I tested the run off a few days ago and it was coming out 4.9!! So I’m in the process of correcting atm and just wanted to know if those particular leaves would now stay curled or go back to normal if and when the issue is fixed.
MichiganMedGrower
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Acidic runoff may be caused by over fertilizing. If the leaves are dark and tips clawing down you may need to leach the pots and feed a lower concentration.
Like said above. Need more info and pics.
Like said above. Need more info and pics.
70's natureboy
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That doesn't look like normal over fertilizing claw. It looks like a sickly droop. Are you sure you don't have mites? they look a little spotty.
Exotica
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As in spider mites? Yes there is a little visible damage (spots) from the mites but I’ve dealt with it and no longer have any.
I don’t think this problem is from over fertilizing as I only feed half strength and none of my other girls are displaying these symptoms.
Exotica
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If the tips were dark, almost black, what would that mean out of curiosity?
Ghost of Davy Jones
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Nitrogen toxicity. They go black when there's a huge excess. The darkness can sometimes indicate rot too.
I dont think its your problem though.
Besides the mites. Those leaves look rather dry, and crispy.
Did you wash your coco thoroughly. Before you potted?
When did you last up your feed? By how much?
How long has this problem, been going on??
Underfeeding, can do some pretty funky shit too. But it looks unlikely, in your case.
Im sorry. I dont want to tell you, what i think it may be. Until i have more info
Ghost of Davy Jones
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That's good to know about the black tipsNitrogen toxicity. They go black when there's a huge excess. The darkness can sometimes indicate rot too.
I dont think its your problem though.
Besides the mites. Those leaves look rather dry, and crispy.
Did you wash your coco thoroughly. Before you potted?
When did you last up your feed? By how much?
How long has this problem, been going on??
Underfeeding, can do some pretty funky shit too. But it looks unlikely, in your case.
Im sorry. I dont want to tell you, what i think it may be. Until i have more info
Exotica
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No I didn’t wash the coco before potting which I didn’t realize I was supposed to do until afterwards!Nitrogen toxicity. They go black when there's a huge excess. The darkness can sometimes indicate rot too.
I dont think its your problem though.
Besides the mites. Those leaves look rather dry, and crispy.
Did you wash your coco thoroughly. Before you potted?
When did you last up your feed? By how much?
How long has this problem, been going on??
Underfeeding, can do some pretty funky shit too. But it looks unlikely, in your case.
Im sorry. I dont want to tell you, what i think it may be. Until i have more info
I haven’t upped the feed as I never usually do until maybe a wk or two before I flip them. And even then I still won’t use full strength as I find this avoids any salt build up.
I guess another thing I didn’t mention because I was interested in whether curling leaves can rectify themselves, was that the rest of the leaves that aren’t curled actually look plastic-like. Like they’re blistered somewhat.
As I mentioned prior, the ph has been out for quite a while so I guess I figured it was all due to that?
I run 100% coco. No perlite, nothing.
I buy the expanding blocks. If I dont flush it clean, i get salt.
Its sucks everything away. Dries the plant. Leaves curl up, twist, go yellow, claw, rams horn, duck's foot, canoe, go limp and soft, crispy, dry, bubble, stems go purple and red, everything. All at once.
If you bought the blocks, and didn't wash em, flush em, then buffer with nutrient etc. My money is on salt.
Which did you buy?
Have you checked your runoff????????
Ppms???
I buy the expanding blocks. If I dont flush it clean, i get salt.
Its sucks everything away. Dries the plant. Leaves curl up, twist, go yellow, claw, rams horn, duck's foot, canoe, go limp and soft, crispy, dry, bubble, stems go purple and red, everything. All at once.
If you bought the blocks, and didn't wash em, flush em, then buffer with nutrient etc. My money is on salt.
Which did you buy?
Have you checked your runoff????????
Ppms???
Exotica
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I use canna coco plus. It doesn’t need to be washed before use I emailed them and they replied today.
The thing is, the bag that I used has been sitting in my shed for about 2.5-3 yrs and I had blocked up all the little air holes punched in the bag to stop ants nesting in it. I noticed for about the first ten days each time I fed them the colour of the runoff was like coke colour, real murky. Which has never happened with any of the bags I’ve bought and used straight away.
So today rather than simply wait and watch I went and bought a new bag and did a complete transplant. I removed them from the pots and gently knocked as much of the medium off as I could, then sat them in a tub of seasol mixture while I prepared the pots with new coco. Whilst in the seasol I carefully removed the rest of the old coco so I was left with only the root ball and quickly replanted feeding with 1/4 strength nutes and foliar sprayed with seasol. It was definitely an ordeal but hopefully I’ll see some improvement once they settle in properly and ph is stable again.
Thanks heaps for your input I appreciate it
Glad you sourced the problem.I use canna coco plus. It doesn’t need to be washed before use I emailed them and they replied today.
The thing is, the bag that I used has been sitting in my shed for about 2.5-3 yrs and I had blocked up all the little air holes punched in the bag to stop ants nesting in it. I noticed for about the first ten days each time I fed them the colour of the runoff was like coke colour, real murky. Which has never happened with any of the bags I’ve bought and used straight away.
So today rather than simply wait and watch I went and bought a new bag and did a complete transplant. I removed them from the pots and gently knocked as much of the medium off as I could, then sat them in a tub of seasol mixture while I prepared the pots with new coco. Whilst in the seasol I carefully removed the rest of the old coco so I was left with only the root ball and quickly replanted feeding with 1/4 strength nutes and foliar sprayed with seasol. It was definitely an ordeal but hopefully I’ll see some improvement once they settle in properly and ph is stable again.
Thanks heaps for your input I appreciate it
When coir composts it releases all its stored potassium etc.
May have been your issue?
I find the same with the runoff too. It has to be clear, if your nutes are.
Otherwise its composted coir.
Hope its smooth sailing from here.
Exotica
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Thank you!! So do I!!Glad you sourced the problem.
When coir composts it releases all its stored potassium etc.
May have been your issue?
I find the same with the runoff too. It has to be clear, if your nutes are.
Otherwise its composted coir.
Hope its smooth sailing from here.