Mega Crop Scrog grow

HydroRed

HydroRed

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ChaosHunter said:
Bud density is on par with any multi nute lines I've used before "cyco,H&G,Canna,AN and GH. The smells and frost is more prominent on both phenos more so than they have been in the past. Actually these have been the loudest smelling plants I've grown in some time. I hope it continues.

Is Mega Crop better at veg and flowering than anything out there ? No ! But damn its easy and cost effective.

Carful with the feed chart and work your way up with it. My Veg girls got 1.5 gpg and didn't like it, back down to 1 gpg.

I pushed this throw together test grow rather hard with MC. They were given nutes every watering until rez change. At rez change they were given one watering with floraKleen and then back to MC.


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Catching them "fall colors" now so it wont be long. Looking good my friend!
I was happy to read your thoughts on frost and smell and cant agree more. I was seeing quite the noticeable difference of frost amounts on my fans and sugar leaves this time compared to the last with the Kosher Kush. I dont feel like its a placebo now lol.
Way frostier this time with MC alone than the most current run with my normal 3 part GH and P-K boost.
I would love to add P-K boost with MC now to see how far I can push it, but I dont want to ruin the fact its an MC only grow. I believe Im going to put in a paid order for the MC and use it again, but with my normal Humboldt "Ginormous" 0-18-16 boost. I've been topping off with straight water between res changes, so I think thats how I've been able to run full suggested strength with no tox or burnt tips. If it werent for that, I think I'd likely BBQ em at suggested strength.
Gotta admit....them AWB looking good so far.
Your gonna get some fire, and I'll be making a phone call to get my beans back lmao
 
Lite

Lite

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Beautiful grow! I am super jealous of how wonderfully those colas filled out. I plan to check up on you with this new grow and make sure that my next one is better than yours. :weed:


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ChaosHunter

ChaosHunter

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HydroRed said:
Catching them "fall colors" now so it wont be long. Looking good my friend!
I was happy to read your thoughts on frost and smell and cant agree more. I was seeing quite the noticeable difference of frost amounts on my fans and sugar leaves this time compared to the last with the Kosher Kush. I dont feel like its a placebo now lol.
Way frostier this time with MC alone than the most current run with my normal 3 part GH and P-K boost.
I would love to add P-K boost with MC now to see how far I can push it, but I dont want to ruin the fact its an MC only grow. I believe Im going to put in a paid order for the MC and use it again, but with my normal Humboldt "Ginormous" 0-18-16 boost. I've been topping off with straight water between res changes, so I think thats how I've been able to run full suggested strength with no tox or burnt tips. If it werent for that, I think I'd likely BBQ em at suggested strength.
Gotta admit....them AWB looking good so far.
Your gonna get some fire, and I'll be making a phone call to get my beans back lmao
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QFT, was hard for me not to want to boost them " I use Grow Tec dry" . It feels strange to grow start to Finnish with just one nute, I do have GLN Sweet Candy to add for the next run. I did pop my veg girls a little early but the two AWB are suspect and I wanted time to top and train like I nor lay would. The CWK is the one I'm hopefull for.

I bought a new filter and it didn't change lol, scary ! The GH and other nutes have done well in the past too but just seemed dishonest in marketing. Even at that growing out a plant or four once a year liquid nutes go bad before I can use them.

I'm going to need a gas mask in trim jail.
 
ChaosHunter

ChaosHunter

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HydroRed said:
Catching them "fall colors" now so it wont be long. Looking good my friend!
I was happy to read your thoughts on frost and smell and cant agree more. I was seeing quite the noticeable difference of frost amounts on my fans and sugar leaves this time compared to the last with the Kosher Kush. I dont feel like its a placebo now lol.
Way frostier this time with MC alone than the most current run with my normal 3 part GH and P-K boost.
I would love to add P-K boost with MC now to see how far I can push it, but I dont want to ruin the fact its an MC only grow. I believe Im going to put in a paid order for the MC and use it again, but with my normal Humboldt "Ginormous" 0-18-16 boost. I've been topping off with straight water between res changes, so I think thats how I've been able to run full suggested strength with no tox or burnt tips. If it werent for that, I think I'd likely BBQ em at suggested strength.
Gotta admit....them AWB looking good so far.
Your gonna get some fire, and I'll be making a phone call to get my beans back lmao
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During the last few weeks of flower I started to notice the start of tip burn, this could have been due to the fact that one plant got too close to the light. The other shorter plant farther away didn't experience this. GLN sells the dry form copy of AN boosters but says you don't need them if using MC. This grow acts as if I used a booster. The only thing not in MC is a carb booster and Sweetcandy will fit the bill I think.

The AWB grape ape I'm not real happy with. They just don't seem stable as other breeders Fems I've run. Out of the two the stacked fat twisted leaf one I'm going to keep for awhile longer.
 
ChaosHunter

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CWK was from the Florida series at Greenpoint. I only got one bean of CWK and thats why I may try and self pollinate her. The series was all fem limited run.

Out of the GA one is a boy and the other a gal. Pulling the boy and will see what the girl will do. She has super short nodes and stacked leafs.

The CWK is about as perfect as can be. I don't remember who the breeders was but there solid.

Nervana gets a bad rap but there gems have been rock solid for the past few years for me.
 
ChaosHunter

ChaosHunter

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HydroRed said:
Do you use CS for the S1's?
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Yes I'm going to give it a shot, I just don't have the room or place for moms. I'm not apposed to chucking pollen also , if I get a good male from my gear.

It's all kind of a long shot. Hell $20 a bean seems expensive up front but if it's good genetics or a good cross it can be worth it. If Greenpoint were to Fem all of there gear I would be all in.

My style of growing today is vastly different from 20 or so years ago indoors. I'm micro and stealth. The best I can do is pop and semi veg a couple of plants while the tent is finishing flower. I'm only in a 2x2.5 5'8 tent. Once I finish a couple of back to back runs everything comes down and goes into a rolling tool chest and off site.

It comes down to what a person wants, getting your food from a grocery store or a farmers market. Big commercial grows will get stamped out by individual growers.

Back in the day there was Kind or Cartel brick weed. That was the choices.
Couple of years ago everyone wants to know what the strains are.
Today everyone is a cork sniffer wanting to know who and how it's grown and want specific traits.

Sorry for the rant lol.
 
HydroRed

HydroRed

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I get what you are saying and agree. Tastes are maturing and getting more refined. Hell I roll with folks that still talk about "4 finger bags" and now days everything is done down to the exacting gram haha. I dont do big anymore either as I dont have a demand like I did a decade ago, just some family and friends I share with so quality is paramount over quantity. I run yr round just so I aint twiddling thumbs. I like to believe its helping keep the grey hairs to a minimum haha
Im always open to new spots to get gear so I'll check em out. Thanks for the heads up brother!
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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ChaosHunter said:
During the last few weeks of flower I started to notice the start of tip burn, this could have been due to the fact that one plant got too close to the light. The other shorter plant farther away didn't experience this. GLN sells the dry form copy of AN boosters but says you don't need them if using MC. This grow acts as if I used a booster. The only thing not in MC is a carb booster and Sweetcandy will fit the bill I think.

The AWB grape ape I'm not real happy with. They just don't seem stable as other breeders Fems I've run. Out of the two the stacked fat twisted leaf one I'm going to keep for awhile longer.
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it's early in my grow but things are gaining momentum right now I'm in that first 2 weeks that things are kind of sluggish & if I have problems it's usually right about now or right around when I flip I don't live too far from gh factory & their stuff is plentiful I've been using it for a while but if things keep programming that's gonna change I'm thinking as this is gonna work out fine
 
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Possum1

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ChaosHunter said:
Ok gang week 7 is in the books and were on to week 8. This will probably be the last update before harvest. I have run Nirvanas AK-48 several times the past few years and its a good fast flowering stain for production. Again this grow was just a test and I'm more interested in growth, bud quality, density, aromas and terpenes etc. Mega Crop had to do as good as GH Maxi with adds. Since I'm in a small space and have a kick ass hydro store I have been able to do full runs of samples over the years. GH Maxi with add-ons always did just as good.

Royal Gold Basement mix has replaced FFOF with perlite added for the foreseeable future.

I did run into a Calcium deficiency towards the middle of flower. I cant fault that on MC, some strains like more than others. Outside of PH adjustment Cal/Mag should be in every growers stash. The bud density is there, these girls are a lot louder than previous runs with them. Trich production is on point too, very frosty. They threw more pistols than a episode of Gun Smoke.

I'm very happy with the performance, savings and that its a dry multi nutrient that if cared for will not go bad. It also works great as a clone nutrient.

Here is what I don't like. The feed chart is a little on the strong side. I start out at 1 gram/Gal and work my way up. If the plants are happy that's all that counts.
EC and PPM are out the window because of the extra bells and whistles added. I get it but its hard to over come in a way when doing something for so long.

On deck Clear water Kush "middle" and Grape Ape. These will go through my normal training. I don't have high hopes for the GA as they are suspect. The CK I'm considering pollinating to itself, from what ive read and seen its a amazing strain that's not available anymore.

They will be close to chop in a week or so, tops will be kept for smoke, everything below and trim for vaping.

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Those buds are amazing.
I think I see (a pathetic comparison) to how mine are just filling out now, not foxtailing as I feared and backed the light off.
So, not to compare my newb grow to this, but what do I need to do different to get from where I'm at to this? Pushing nute ppms and light distance?
I'm thinking light distance; as I have a little nug, 3" stem, little nug, 2" stem, then cola. But damn those are fat colas so ppms too?
 
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Possum1

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Lite said:
Beautiful grow! I am super jealous of how wonderfully those colas filled out. I plan to check up on you with this new grow and make sure that my next one is better than yours. :weed:

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Thanks so much, got a sample on the way.
 
ChaosHunter

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Possum1 said:
Those buds are amazing.
I think I see (a pathetic comparison) to how mine are just filling out now, not foxtailing as I feared and backed the light off.
So, not to compare my newb grow to this, but what do I need to do different to get from where I'm at to this? Pushing nute ppms and light distance?
I'm thinking light distance; as I have a little nug, 3" stem, little nug, 2" stem, then cola. But damn those are fat colas so ppms too?
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If I explain it I'd probably be called out on it but here goes.
A good quality light is the most important piece of grow equipment you can own. Not only getting the right light for your space but also for your style of growing, HID, LED or COB.

Now that's out of the way it comes down to watering and nute scedule. If you notice anyone with an automated style or hydro system gets swell like this. In flower my plants are getting the max amount that I see fit "not a chart" every watering and every day at lights on during heavy flowering. I do rinse every Rez change 8gal. Plants will take up water and nute during the first 15min of lights on. And when consistaint they start to expect it, a self watering system or hydro they get this. No matter what I'm doing or where I'm at there getting the same amount of watering at the same time day in day out.

Watering by hand doesn't get the same consistency. Some boutique strains genetically "cookie crosses etc" don't produce large buds more marble sized. Production strains tend to give bigger buds. Also Scrog training allows a plant to grow more mature in a smaller space. This can lead to better bud set also. You will get there and your grow looks pro to me !
 
KonopCh

KonopCh

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Is there anything you would like to improve? You miss some products with Mega crop "line"? You said like Mega crop isn't the best nute range here...
What was dry yield? GPW?
 
ChaosHunter

ChaosHunter

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KonopCh said:
Is there anything you would like to improve? You miss some products with Mega crop "line"? You said like Mega crop isn't the best nute range here...
What was dry yield? GPW?
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Mega Crop is like a full lineup nute in a one part dry form. Does it out preform or out do a 7-10 bottle line up ?, no. Is it as good as the multi bottle lineups I've used ? Yes. I wasn't expecting it to be better than anything I've used just be equal.

This was just a test grow for myself and not a typical yield grow I normally do. Things I was looking for was deficiencies throughout the grow, How much to use at different stages of growth compared to the feed schedule, How well it mixes, How well it holds PH, Plant health and over all bud density and quality. I didn't want to skew my testing with adding anything but MC. I did run into a calcium deficiency with one of my plants getting to close to the light "my fault". Every grower should have a bottle of CalMag on hand no matter what nutes you use.

I like Mega Crop and will use it from here on out. I will add there carb additive my next grow although I may not need it. I've grown this strain out many times and never had the frost or smells that I have with MC. Its a easy complete one part multi bottle line up in dry form.

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A lot of the nute company's force you to buy there full line, if you don't you will run into problems. A lot of it is not complete and you have to know if it has the full primary, secondary and micros. Some sell the base nutes cheap but the adds are $$$

I do not think MC needs any kind of flower booster
 
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KonopCh

KonopCh

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That is nice, thanks for answer.
But you said you grow this strain before... So, you can compare yield despite it was first time and maybe not dialed in.
Another question, didn't notice any N or K toxity? I think they are little on higher side, especially in coco which holds more K.
 
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