The Dons' Organic Garden
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DonTesla
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Just a Special request from a friend to hunt down a special variety..tis from an older blueberry Hashplant lover/specialist /generational growther here in my region .. It's on my list to run in house but right now I'm running Shotta fruit Cake, Shotta Berry Kush, Bubbas Meltdown, Pink Gravy, SSDD f2 as well as goji OG f2's.
I believe Mikado is some kind of raspberry haze though which is pretty cool.
If fumble says its good I can try get us some more..and from there I will hook you up!!!
DonTesla
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Appreciate the blessing! .. if in a rush my good homie has a variation of it too, I believe Mikado x NightcapThanks man! Let me know.
I bless your garden!
We are also working a special 14 week Laos Landrace Sativa .. our next special Pink Gravy variation, its gonna be something else to say the least!! big up!
DonTesla
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Yes, Fumble, keep loving them super well .. you have the shorter wider pheno of the PinkGravy going I see, and that one specifically is usually the sweeter more cotton candy and lavender sweet tart smell (less fruit loop dank/ gravy) but with more tendency to show the pink hues laiden with that pink thc (both bulbs and stalks) and if not that then it will likely be the one to really amber up, really early. The shot at the top of the page is off of the exact same pheno of PG that you have isolated over there in the greenhouse, 150 style except in a 7 gal, so look out- we are excited too no doubt!
DonTesla
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Screen shot of a screen shot, taken off the phone with the macro lens. Still hunting the expensive camera down (researching a class higher now) but doing the best we can with what we got meanwhile.. little repost since the 1st msg is always small on new page
This is the Pink Gravy GWB pheno
(shorter, bushier vs the taller, more sativa dom.. both have extreme high thc/early amber tendencies thanks to the Super Lemon Haze mother they hail from, who was chosen from the best of several SLH females, many 100's literally, spanning over dozens of runs/several years.. so the recessive stockier structure and smell of Chernobyl father's father comes out with the SLH dominance of the extreme high thc and amber.. mm I love that combo as much as the opposite). The Gravy Chernobyl smells backed with the SSH structure, also utterly rare and amazing.
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giglewigle
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cant wait to grow some pink gravy getting a compost tumbler tomorro gunna biuld a soil over winter in it
DonTesla
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thats 100% awesome man, where did you end up finding your tumbler again?!
giglewigle
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fuck winter
ebay 145 australian looked again and one came up for 125 but ye im eather going to get all the stuff from ebay or build a soil im wary of buying things like this from over seas becuse of the exchange rate and customs i lost 300 once buying soil from over seas it went 2 fed ex wherehouse or somthing and i coudent get there and i was paranoid this was years ago before i knew anything im gunna hit up build a soil later on and ask them im sure thay would be happy 2 help gunna learn 2 boild a soler panal so then i can run ac and every thing and not have 2 worry about the electric bill lol so far iv got 400 saved
calliandra
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Very pretty!!
Would you care to expand a bit on this?
What is the A-Ox foliar and the VPD?
I was thinking of you the other day when I checked on the Pineapple Express Auto I've been growing on the side - and she had developed a distinct smell of POT ROAST! LOL imagine my surprise, the times I've grown her before she was just straight pineapple with a bit of grape and haziness mixed in
So could that be the "gravy" you guys are always talking about?!
DonTesla
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Yeah the borders and boundaries are bumbleclot the nuisance.. I have so much stuff to give away, tents, intake fans, panels, ballasts, lights, shelves.. but I'm not gonna send it anywhere .. even my old 4x8 grow room that I painted rasta colours and lacquered.. thats something that just needs to be picked up!
As for AU, I wonder if you build my old recipe, if you could get most of the stuff in AUS.. its only about 10 ingredients
I'd love to see you build your soil from within the AU .. to have someone's soil taken, that is just undivinely inhumane mang.. the nearest city has absolute crap for organic ingredients?? Maybe you can talk them into carrying them.. thats what I did in my city.. now the 2 big headshops here have a little organic section at least
giglewigle
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Id never actually steal someones soil we have big park where theres lots of trees its all clay tho im probably going to just compost what i needYeah the borders and boundaries are bumbleclot the nuisance.. I have so much stuff to give away, tents, intake fans, panels, ballasts, lights, shelves.. but I'm not gonna send it anywhere .. even my old 4x8 grow room that I painted rasta colours and lacquered.. thats something that just needs to be picked up!
As for AU, I wonder if you build my old recipe, if you could get most of the stuff in AUS.. its only about 10 ingredients
I'd love to see you build your soil from within the AU .. to have someone's soil taken, that is just undivinely inhumane mang.. the nearest city has absolute crap for organic ingredients?? Maybe you can talk them into carrying them.. thats what I did in my city.. now the 2 big headshops here have a little organic section at least
DonTesla
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Don't mind at allVery pretty!!
Would you care to expand a bit on this?
What is the A-Ox foliar and the VPD?
I was thinking of you the other day when I checked on the Pineapple Express Auto I've been growing on the side - and she had developed a distinct smell of POT ROAST! LOL imagine my surprise, the times I've grown her before she was just straight pineapple with a bit of grape and haziness mixed in
So could that be the "gravy" you guys are always talking about?!
I was going to mention how if we want our plants to have more antioxidants which is what anthocyanin is, technically, the pinkish purplish hue we are looking for.. we should consider feeding them more antioxidants, be thru the worm's diets, soil feedings, or even air mistings. Once they are in place (abundance of antioxidants) then there are things we can do to "aid in pulling them out" so to speak.. if there is a reason to, that is... let me explain ..
After many trials and rounds of experimentation followed tightly by macro investigation, I realized there is a way to affect the "derma" cells in the long stalk part of the trichome gland by playing with vapour pressures and specifically using negative pressure / Vapour Pressure Drops and the big precursor: UV earlier in the day to create minor stress- if the supply of antioxidants are there in the soil, magic could happen..
Especially when the soil is very well amended and very alive in all ways, when one is able to use plain neutral RO, as more neutral pH water helps amplify the bright hue ..
(blue purple and red are also possible based on pH fluxes depending on whether high or low, as well as if other elements are present such as Aluminum)
but again, UV exposure and therefore early UV / full spectrum exposure is important or shall I say my main theorized precursor to the plants wanting to be doing this..
not only because it builds a tolerance and can take longer focused periods later (especially in the end, of UV / deep reds and far reds) but its the very reason to it wanting to create more substance in its exterior tissues to "protect itself" more .. simple survival and instinctual reactions.. almost like it creates a tan / rooftop for their bright convertible lifestyle, because clear glasslike crystals amplify and magnify the bright powerful spectrums (plants can see after all in a way).. if the diet is fully supplied, and factors allow, its just another tool or weapon the plant has to combat the extremes of life..
Of course, however, I think certain seeds are more inclined to this type of behaviour, especially really high thc varieties (billions of trich-relationships between sky and skin (aka plant) and therefor soil get established on the plants which cant hurt the odds of having complete more well rounded fully operational defence mechanisms aka trichomes develop) as well as early amber varieties. Having both or either of those present in the gene line is a big helper I think.
As for the two colours in the diagram, its because there is a basal cell in the thrichome that seemingly blocks the hue from coming up into the secretory cells, and for me, thats the crown achievement in macro organic MMJ photography .. I cloned the Tight (Pink) Dojo that I ran, the one that went riiight pink in the 'secre-cells' (thru and thru pink secretory cells) and after the mother got one treatment, of UV and A-ox foliar (A-Ox - = anti-oxidant) .. the clone got no UV and no foliar and no VPDrops's and after harvest pictures showed the traits were NOT expressed.. that is, there was no need (for UV protection) and no magic ingredient (no extra antioxidants supplied in abundance to play with, be it through air or soil)
Then to confirm, I did a round with several companies gear to test my theories and I was able to create hue.. in the sealed room I would build pressure up and vapour and RH then I would drop in middle of the night like a dew pressure drops each night. Focused Exposure to UV each night right before bed .. lay down some extra hue and need for shelter... then help the plant draw it out at night. Again, this was aided by paragmagnetic minerals in the soil/ crystals and worm castings that were made from scratch with a lot of great inputs, I think that helped the proton/electron flow.
Ended up pulling pink into the trichs on 60% of the specimens..same soil all around, no A-Ox foliar and the Bubbas Meltdown and Pink Gravy did it (big derma cell change,s not secre-cells though) quite prominently but the higher potency ones were the ones did it, too, The LA Choc and the Red Belly Diesel for example, but the weaker ones didnt; the JOTI, Crap King, etc etc. this leads me to believe its a trait thats inherent and expressible in stronger strains, but requires coaxing and certain environmental factors to be in place, in order to be brought to the forefront of visible exposure.
Hope that helps a bit.. if you guys make headway please share
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kmog33
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I'm.glad you tagged me in this don, because recently I have been using pretty much every new lighting tech available and as good as your old may be per watt with all these new led fixtures, the flowers just aren't the same without the uv from hids.Don't mind at all
I was going to mention how if we want our plants to have more antioxidants which is what anthocyanin is, technically, the pinkish purplish hue we are looking for.. we should consider feeding them more antioxidants, be thru the worm's diets, soil feedings, or even air mistings. Once they are in place (abundance of antioxidants) then there are things we can do to "aid in pulling them out" so to speak.. if there is a reason to, that is... let me explain ..
After many trials and rounds of experimentation followed tightly by macro investigation, I realized there is a way to affect the "derma" cells in the long stalk part of the trichome gland by playing with vapour pressures and specifically using negative pressure / Vapour Pressure Drops and the big precursor: UV earlier in the day to create minor stress- if the supply of antioxidants are there in the soil, magic could happen..
Especially when the soil is very well amended and very alive in all ways, when one is able to use plain neutral RO, as more neutral pH water helps amplify the bright hue ..
(blue purple and red are also possible based on pH fluxes depending on whether high or low, as well as if other elements are present such as Aluminum)
but again, UV exposure and therefore early UV / full spectrum exposure is important or shall I say my main theorized precursor to the plants wanting to be doing this..
not only because it builds a tolerance and can take longer focused periods later (especially in the end, of UV / deep reds and far reds) but its the very reason to it wanting to create more substance in its exterior tissues to "protect itself" more .. simple survival and instinctual reactions.. almost like it creates a tan / rooftop for their bright convertible lifestyle, because clear glasslike crystals amplify and magnify the bright powerful spectrums (plants can see after all in a way).. if the diet is fully supplied, and factors allow, its just another tool or weapon the plant has to combat the extremes of life..
Of course, however, I think certain seeds are more inclined to this type of behaviour, especially really high thc varieties (billions of trich-relationships between sky and skin (aka plant) and therefor soil get established on the plants which cant hurt the odds of having complete more well rounded fully operational defence mechanisms aka trichomes develop) as well as early amber varieties. Having both or either of those present in the gene line is a big helper I think.
As for the two colours in the diagram, its because there is a basal cell in the thrichome that seemingly blocks the hue from coming up into the secretory cells, and for me, thats the crown achievement in macro organic MMJ photography .. I cloned the Tight (Pink) Dojo that I ran, the one that went riiight pink in the 'secre-cells' (thru and thru pink secretory cells) and after the mother got one treatment, of UV and A-ox foliar (A-Ox - = anti-oxidant) .. the clone got no UV and no foliar and no VPDrops's and after harvest pictures showed the traits were NOT expressed.. that is, there was no need (for UV protection) and no magic ingredient (no extra antioxidants supplied in abundance to play with, be it through air or soil)
Then to confirm, I did a round with several companies gear to test my theories and I was able to create hue.. in the sealed room I would build pressure up and vapour and RH then I would drop in middle of the night like a dew pressure drops each night. Focused Exposure to UV each night right before bed .. lay down some extra hue and need for shelter... then help the plant draw it out at night. Again, this was aided by paragmagnetic minerals in the soil/ crystals and worm castings that were made from scratch with a lot of great inputs, I think that helped the proton/electron flow.
Ended up pulling pink into the trichs on 60% of the specimens..same soil all around, no A-Ox foliar and the Bubbas Meltdown and Pink Gravy did it (big derma cell change,s not secre-cells though) quite prominently but the higher potency ones were the ones did it, too, The LA Choc and the Red Belly Diesel for example, but the weaker ones didnt; the JOTI, Crap King, etc etc. this leads me to believe its a trait thats inherent and expressible in stronger strains, but requires coaxing and certain environmental factors to be in place, in order to be brought to the forefront of visible exposure.
Hope that helps a bit.. if you guys make headway please share
@DonPetro @Chronikool @fumble @eastcoastmo @DonBrennon @calliandra @Grandpa GreenJeans @kmog33 @thccbdhealth @greasemonkeymann @rastaroy @iHearAll and many many more
The biggest negative effect I noticed was lack of resistance to pests and fungus. Any plant that sort of had problems under hid, had amplified problems under led.
Tendency to Herm also seems to be increased when grown without uv.
Just my experience, but thanks for the post and tag.
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