question for fdd, and others...

stickstones

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I've got these four plants that I have been burying as they get taller. One of them is clearly ahead of the others, although they were all germed at the same time.

Can I still bury the taller plant, even though I would have to bury the starter leaves (what do you call them, ctl's?). I don't want this one to stretch and fall over.

Thanks!

2 pics...all four and the roid-rage plant.

PS - to all you noobs out there like me, when growing in soil outdoors, just get out of the way. I have done way more harm to seedlings than good by screwing with them.
 

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midgradeindasouth

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looks like you already have them buried up to the cotleydons (bottm round leaves).
That should be fine like that.
You are certainly right about over carring.

Happy growing.
 

SmokerE

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Mid is right. My suggestion would be to try and get them some more light, and also if they are blocked from the wind the stem won't be as strong. Maybe get them out in the open. Good luck
 

stickstones

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Mid is right. My suggestion would be to try and get them some more light, and also if they are blocked from the wind the stem won't be as strong. Maybe get them out in the open. Good luck
Thanks SmokerE. I have been keeping them outside 24/7 for the last three days in the shade in a spot protected from the wind. My other plant that is hurting got burned by me putting it in direct sunight too soon. The three little ones I am afraid of exposing to the elements too soon, even though they are the same age as the bigger one. I will look for a more open spot that is still out of sight.
 

SmokerE

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Usually I found the only problem with direct sunlight is when they are in small containers it tends to evaporate rather quickly. Especially being in a black container. Maybe dig a hole or something in the ground and place the container in the hole. Surround the hole with dirt and water the plant in the container.
 

babygro

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ICan I still bury the taller plant, even though I would have to bury the starter leaves (what do you call them, ctl's?). I don't want this one to stretch and fall over.
Sure you can bury it past the Cotyledons, those seed leaves will only fall off at some point anyway so it won't make any difference if you buried them. The plant has sufficient foliage it doesn't need to use the cotyledons any more.

Fill the pot right up to the brim with soil and bury the cotyledons, just push the soil gently down around the edges of the pot so you have a small lip running around the soil edge so when you water it doesn't all spill over the sides of the pot.
 

mogie

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First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.

Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!

Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.

Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.

Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.

Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.

Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
 

stickstones

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Well, the bigger one, I call it 'roids' is finally seeing some color change in ctl's. I will repot it this week into its final pot and bury it up to the leaves. I now see some spots on the bottom node leaves...hopefully this is nothing. Roids is by far the best plant I have had yet.
 

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midgradeindasouth

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You are going to want to transplant out of those little pots to something more substantial.
I would do this soon if you are going to continue putting them outside.
Like smoke said they will evaporate water alot quicker in those smaller black pots.

Oh yeah, they are looking good.
Happy growing
 

stickstones

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Thanks midgrade...I will repot Roids today if I can get away from work, otherwise in the next three days. I am thinking of waiting a little on the other three as they are slooowww growing plants and I don't want to shock them before they get established.

I am going to repot Roids and bury it up to the first set of leaves. Got any ideas as to how much room from the top of the pot I should leave empty to continue burying for awhile? This burying thing is something fdd told me to do and it has been working so far. BTW, I am going to LST the plants once they are in the final pots for stealth purposes.

Also, these seeds were the worst looking of my bag seed (as this is my first grow, I saved the best ones for later), so I am not surprised to see slow growers in there. Hopefully they will give me something in return despite their 'runt-seed' status.

Thanks
 

stickstones

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I repotted Roids on Sunday (today is Tuesday) and, as expected it has stopped growing for now...but it doesn't look to be hurting from the transplant. Here's some pics.

Check out the brown spots on the lower leaves. This is happening to two of my plants. I'm not worried about it, but if any of you have advice let me know.

I am keeping them outdoors full-time now. Found a spot that gets good light, direct light for a portion of the day, can get rain and wind and is out of view unless you come onto my property.
 

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