I use this as a preventative during veg and it works great. also works as treatment for existing pm https://www.centralcoastgarden.com/products/green-cleaner/
what organics are you using? i recently switched to bio-bizz but i'm not impressed for the price tag. i got them locally for 50% off or i wouldn't have even tried.
i liked OES. i never had a problem before and i like that he accepts cards. hate sending cash. he ships quickly too. taking you for 20 though... i don't like that. recently he's playing too much with manipulating prices, pulling stock to look as though it is low and then restocking the next day...