drooping, crisp, textured leaves first grow

My plants are about 4 weeks old. They have looked like this all along. AK48 fem. seeds from nirvanashop.com. I've fed them twice with half the advised strength fox farms big bloom and grow big. They are in fox farms ocean soil. Roots look great, but the leaves have allways drooped been textured and feel crisp. I have them under a 1000 watt mh. temp's are 82-57 lights on-lights off humidity stays around 42 soil ph reads 7. I think I over watered them as seedlings but am concerned by the leaf and drooping stems. I've done a ton of homework and this does tend to resemble over watering, but wanted some firsthand experienced opinions. First grow.

I transplanted one to a 5 gallon with fox farms ocean soil, but didn't water it to see if it will help. There is plenty of water in the old soil and the new to keep it going.

5 gal was too big of a pot to transplant those little plants ....only water a lil when they need it and give those roots a chance to fill the pot or your gonna end up with a soggy mess that will never dry out........remember only water a LITTLE around the plant DONT water till you get runoff till the plant has roots to suck it all up....and dont feed for a month in that soil .....

Ok thanks. The root system was surprisingly strong or I wouldn't have transplanted, and intend to keep the watering to a min. Just being a nervous new daddy I guess. lol I lined the bottom of the 5 gal with rocks to help with drainage too.

not sure on Soil ph's but 7 seems high.

7 is neutral and normal for soil as I understand it.

Ive been using that soil for 5 years and its always 7....the oyster shells they use buffer it at 7....just feed at 6.5 and you will have no problems....good luck and dont feed in that soil till you see the lower fan leaves go pale green...nitrogen is the first thing you will run out of.....it has a ton of calcium so dont worry about that.....

Thanks Filthy I'll pick up a water ph tester.

you can add perlite to soil mix that'll keep it more airy. also an air bubbler in your feed before you water your plant will help oxygenate roots.. other than the drowning your plants do look healthy

No problem bro, if you need help down the road just shoot me a line ...im a walking book...and yea a ph meter is my best friend, cant solve a problem without it....its a must.....and a ppm meter for feeding that uses the .5 conv...that way its easy to do the math when someones talking with ec units. (500 ppm is 1.0ec) well you get the idea ....have fun....

O and if your a real control freak like me here is the foxfarm soil breakdown.......ph 7.1 ...4.4ec....25nit n...210 amm N.....77p.....325k......4000cal.....390mag...2476sulf....0.1bor....3.9zinc.....2.0copper.....7.5manganese....90iron....1.8sodium.....1.8chlorine.....moisture holding capacity 53.9%......25%air filled porocity....31.3 cec.........all measured in parts per million of dry soil........nice to know that....lol

them leafs are way to green , classic sign of too much N , just give plain ph 6.2 water until they get back to being a nice light green . just because they not burning don't mean your not overloading them . I would water for 2-3 weeks .

carnt belive none of these x perts on here havnt told you this

We already know hes in new foxfarm soil and is only giving water ....i also said dont feed for a month....so please read b4 you open your mouth

filthy piglet said:

Ive been using that soil for 5 years and its always 7....the oyster shells they use buffer it at 7....just feed at 6.5 and you will have no problems....good luck and dont feed in that soil till you see the lower fan leaves go pale green...nitrogen is the first thing you will run out of.....it has a ton of calcium so dont worry about that.....

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Mabey i need to point it out for ya

Haha maybe someday that will make perfect sense to me, til then...... Thanks for the soil breakdown ,Filthy.

filthy piglet said:

Ive been using that soil for 5 years and its always 7....the oyster shells they use buffer it at 7....just feed at 6.5 and you will have no problems....good luck and dont feed in that soil till you see the lower fan leaves go pale green...nitrogen is the first thing you will run out of.....it has a ton of calcium so dont worry about that.....

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. Would the excess nutes cause the stunted growth? The leaves keep getting fatter but the branches aren't getting any longer.

Overwatering and transplant shock will cause stunted growth. BTW next time start your babies out it 16-20oz cups, makes watering a lot easier to keep from overwatering, and its a lot less space your roots have to fill up before it starts to actually put energy into growing/branching.

Nitrogen toxicity.. and over watering

Thanks gang!