DawgMountain
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There was a little of this stuff on my Matanuska clone. As she grew it spread. I treated with a fugicide (sulfer) but it doesn't seem to be stopping it.
Power Mildew? What is this? w/pics
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golddog
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It looks like some kind of deficiency.
I would go to the Plant Problems links, and see if you can find a picture that matches yours.
Good Luck
DawgMountain
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The brown edging may be that it was awhile before I started Cal/Mag.... But my 2 white widows aren't getting it but all my blackberry/white widow hybrids have it too with all my matanuska recent clones.
nomaninsf
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You have a very bad case of spider mites. Look at the bottoms of your leaves. You might need a microscope or magnifying glass to see them if you don't have good sight. Get some Floramite SC or Avid EC. Avid and Floramite are both systemic and will stay in your plants for about 30 days.
Avid EC will work on many pests. You spray the undersides of your leaves. When the pests eat your plant they will die. The downside to Avid is that it only kills the bugs and doesn't kill the eggs.
Floramite SC is the best product on the market for spider mites. It kills the mites and kills the eggs. Floramite however only works on mites and doesn't work on other pests like Avid does.
Application: To make sure you kill all the mites, mix a batch of Floramite or Avid in a 5 gallon bucket and completely submerge your plants from the tops to the base of the steam. If you can't manage to dip your plants, get a hudson sprayer and spray the undersides of EVERY leaf.
***WARNING*** Avid and Floramite are toxic as fuck. Toxic to humans and to bugs. Wear gloves and long sleeves and DO NOT get any on your skin. Enough exposure to those pesticides can cause serious health problems.
Get on top of that infestation NOW. It's already really bad so I would suggest Floramite over Avid. If you want to go completely organic you can use Azatrol or Azamax (same product, different name). The problem with Azatrol is that it won't work on bad infestations like yours, and it has to be applied every week.
GOOD LUCK!
Avid EC will work on many pests. You spray the undersides of your leaves. When the pests eat your plant they will die. The downside to Avid is that it only kills the bugs and doesn't kill the eggs.
Floramite SC is the best product on the market for spider mites. It kills the mites and kills the eggs. Floramite however only works on mites and doesn't work on other pests like Avid does.
Application: To make sure you kill all the mites, mix a batch of Floramite or Avid in a 5 gallon bucket and completely submerge your plants from the tops to the base of the steam. If you can't manage to dip your plants, get a hudson sprayer and spray the undersides of EVERY leaf.
***WARNING*** Avid and Floramite are toxic as fuck. Toxic to humans and to bugs. Wear gloves and long sleeves and DO NOT get any on your skin. Enough exposure to those pesticides can cause serious health problems.
Get on top of that infestation NOW. It's already really bad so I would suggest Floramite over Avid. If you want to go completely organic you can use Azatrol or Azamax (same product, different name). The problem with Azatrol is that it won't work on bad infestations like yours, and it has to be applied every week.
GOOD LUCK!
lazaah
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If it is spidermites, I prefer to use neem oil, its cheap, organic, and safe. Get a spray bottle and drench the underside of the plants with it. Also if you have tomatoe plants at home, cut a cup or two worth of leave off, soak it in 2L of water overnight with some crushed garlic if you have it and a good squirt of dishwash. Strain it and drench/spray the plants with it. You could probably even dilute that as its strong
Do this twice in the first week, then once a week until your 4/5week flowering. You dont want to be spraying shit late in flowering so get onto it now.
You could also add a 1/2 dose of cal/mag to the tomato spray which might help if it is slightly deficient. But atleast check you havent got mites.
(the reason the tomato spray works is tomato is a relative of deadly nightshade and the leaves are poisonous to bugs we dont want in our garden.
Do this twice in the first week, then once a week until your 4/5week flowering. You dont want to be spraying shit late in flowering so get onto it now.
You could also add a 1/2 dose of cal/mag to the tomato spray which might help if it is slightly deficient. But atleast check you havent got mites.
(the reason the tomato spray works is tomato is a relative of deadly nightshade and the leaves are poisonous to bugs we dont want in our garden.
sebastopolian
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I agree with nomaninsf, Cause that infestation is bad, it needs to be hit hard! Or he won't have shit!
nomaninsf
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Cheap, organic, and safe is true. I've used Azatrol/Azamax, Avid, Floramite, Safer Soap, Dyna Grow neem oil, fogger bombs, and predator mites. Before I started using Floramite and Avid, my favorite spider mite insecticide was a combo of either neem oil and a fogger, or Azatrol and a fogger. It's good to not use the same product on your pests all the time because the can build up a tolerance.
The benefit to neem oil or Azatrol is that if it gets on you, whatever, it's organic and doesn't hurt you. The downside is that they're not systemic and need to be constantly applied.
If you want to rid all of your plants of all mites just get a bottle of Floramite. Get the smallest bottle you can find since it's quite pricey. Mix 3ml of Floramite per 1 gallon of water. 1 gallon with spray 24 medium sized plants if you're spraying. The best method as I said before is to mix a 5 gal bucket and dunk them. You'll only need 15ml (1/2 oz). I saw that size online for $11. If you dunk with floramite you'll kill every spider mite in one shot and not have to keep reapplying and still not get rid of all the mites. I guess it all just depends on if you're ok using a non organic solution to the problem and you're ready to be extremely vigilant with the mites and constantly reapply your organic remedy.
nomaninsf
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I just blew up your photo and if you look close you can see webbing on the leaves. If they are in numbers where they are creating web systems already then you definitely have a big problem. Strike hard and strike fast or your plants will have irrecoverable damage.
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DawgMountain
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Okay, you've convinced me. I can dip the plants in question and spray the other plants that don't seem to have them yet. I'm certain this mother clone brought these in. I'll pick up some Floramite tomorrow.
How easy do they cross from plant to plant?
If I dip them, is the plant going to be okay? Will it stress? Will it taste funny in the end?
Thanks so much for your help.
How easy do they cross from plant to plant?
If I dip them, is the plant going to be okay? Will it stress? Will it taste funny in the end?
Thanks so much for your help.
nomaninsf
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If your other plants are in the same room then you will want to treat all your plants. With an infestation of that scale, if you have your plants in the same room then all your plants are infested whether you can see them or not.
Dipping the plant will not hurt it at all. I inoculate every plant I have with Avid or Floramite before flowering just to make sure I am safe... at least safe for the first 30 days of flowering. It will not hurt the plant or leave a funny taste. It definitely will not stress it. What it will do is rid your plants of spider mites, which are stressing your plants as we speak. It will only remain on and in the plant for 30 days, I think 32 days is what they advertise. Since Floramite kills the eggs too I like to spray the floor and walls in my grow area after dipping the plants. If you use Avid instead, treat the plants, but don't bother spraying the floor or walls. Avid only kills the bugs that are eating the treated plants.
collective gardener
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You must attack now! Hard and fast. I wouldn't worry about organic at this point. I don't think neem is going to save your plants IMHO. Good luck.
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Hotsause
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I could tell it was Spider Mites from the jump. I had a run in with them my first run i had no clue about them till it was a little late and they had webs everywhere. NEXTIME IM UNLEASHING THE PREDATOR MITES ON THOSE BITCHES if there is a nextime ive had 2 other successful runs without those asses
nomaninsf
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I wasn't impressed with predator mites. First thing was I didn't like introducing more bugs into my environment. Secondly, the spider mites came back when I tried to use predator mites as a solution. The guy at the shop said that they eat the spider mites until they can't find anymore and then they eat each other.
DawgMountain
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I was in class all day today so it wasn't until around 6 that I could call around about Floramite and Avid... Couldn't find them locally. Guess I'll have to order Floramite (1/2oz for $11). I bought some AzaMax by GH. What do you think of that stuff? I'm going to use it until I can get the better stuff.
nomaninsf
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AzaMax is great. I keep Azatrol in my artillery. Azatrol is the same as Azamax. GH just bought the recipe and slapped their name on it. It will help suppress your spider mites until you can get something stronger but it won't get rid of them. It works for just about every bug. What's nice is you can mix it in with your nutes and water with if too if you have pests in your soil, coco, hydroton, etc. For example, I had root aphids on the bottoms of my rockwool cubes once. I did a dunk of the cubes and another dunk a week later and it got rid of all of them. It won't hurt to spray your plants with it for now until you can get some floramite. Forgot to tell you that floramite can be hard to come by if you don't have the right store near you, sorry. Hear in California you can get it everywhere I shop.
DawgMountain
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Okay, I just mixed up 37.5ml in 24oz of water in a sprayer. Got my PPE on. Gonna have a smoke before I go in.
After I spray, will the spots go away or is that eaten leaf?
Thanks nomaninsf and everyone else for the advice. I can't bear to lose this mother.
After I spray, will the spots go away or is that eaten leaf?
Thanks nomaninsf and everyone else for the advice. I can't bear to lose this mother.
nomaninsf
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The spots will never go away but new growth will be just fine if you successfully get rid of the mites. Good luck man. Out of every pest or problem I've ever encountered, spider mites are the worst by far. If you have the vigilance to get rid of spider mites you can get rid of any other bug you might come across. I get them about once a year. The trick is catching them when you see the first signs (white dots). You just have to look closely all your plants all the time. My second most encountered pest is thrips. If you have thrips you will see silver looking spots, like a snail trail, on the tops of the leaves. If you see anything out of the ordinary, even on one leaf out of all your plants, don't ever be afraid to ask. No question is a dumb one, especially if it means the difference between a successful or a bad harvest.