Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions
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Uncle Ben
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Those aren't leaves, they are food storage organs. The plant will drop them once the food reserves are depleted.
UB, I wasnt able to get the malathion yet, but I was able to get a 2.5% permethrin solution at the local nursery. I put 1.5 tbsp per gallon and fed this to my plants. I looked this morning, and I still see the little bugs crawling around in the soil.
Should I move up to the malathion solution drench? I also got the doktordoom's fogger, but I dont know if that will get into the soil either. What do you recommend?
Should I move up to the malathion solution drench? I also got the doktordoom's fogger, but I dont know if that will get into the soil either. What do you recommend?
Uncle Ben
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First - identify the pest and decide on whether or not it is indeed harmful,
Two - if you're out on a kill mission, permethrins will do the job. You just have to follow the label.
Three - I wouldn't have recommended malathion if I knew it was lame.
Ben
Alright, thanks for the help UB. Since I already have the permethin, Ill use this for a few more applications to see if it works before purchasing some malathion.
Im not that great at identifying the bugs, but I think there is multiple kinds. I think theres two kinds. I know there is fungus gnats because of the adults, so I know there are larvae. But then there are some tiny tiny bugs that jump also, so maybe those are springtails? Then I saw the description for mealybugs, and I think I have that too.
Im not that great at identifying the bugs, but I think there is multiple kinds. I think theres two kinds. I know there is fungus gnats because of the adults, so I know there are larvae. But then there are some tiny tiny bugs that jump also, so maybe those are springtails? Then I saw the description for mealybugs, and I think I have that too.
Uncle Ben
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Just because you confirm you have soil bugs like springtails or fungus gnats doesn't necessarily mean they are doing any real damage. Fungus larvae are known to feed primarily on decaying organic material. You could have another problem going on. I'd pop a rootball out and have a look at the roots.
UB
Crownmesire
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Uncle Ben thanks for this write up, I appreciate the knowledge from exp growers such as yourself. I hope to pass on what I learn to others. Growing as a whole is a beautiful thing, you've helped a great deal.
Uncle Ben
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Thanks for the kind words! I have a draft of my tweaks, started about 6 months ago, still need to finish that one up.
Grow hard,
UB
Quick question i have 3 small pots maybe half a gallon each with 3 plants that are about 15 days old in each. anyway they all are getting the same light and water but i do have one pot that is a little bit larger then the others and its holding my biggest plants. The leaves on these plants are starting to droop some and im not sure why the other plants look pretty good so far.
are they getting bigger so i need to water them more?
am i over watering them i have seen the soil dry before but ounce or twice only in the biggest pot never in the smaller ones.
They are still young so i leave them outside on days when its sunny but when its rainy or cloudy days i put them under 2 100 watt lights and 1 65 watt, is that to much moving around do they need to stay in a stable condition?
are they getting bigger so i need to water them more?
am i over watering them i have seen the soil dry before but ounce or twice only in the biggest pot never in the smaller ones.
They are still young so i leave them outside on days when its sunny but when its rainy or cloudy days i put them under 2 100 watt lights and 1 65 watt, is that to much moving around do they need to stay in a stable condition?
Uncle Ben
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If they are light when you lift them, then they need watering.
Not really. Best scenario is to put them outdoors under full sun and then bring them indoors under HID's to simulate a 20/4 photoperiod. They must be slowly acclimated first.
marijuanan
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my plants have been growing for a week and a half in small plasic pots. the leaves have started to curl downward so i transplanted. when i took them out of the small plasic i noticed the roots all scrambled along the bottom do you think theroots not having enough room is the reason the leaves are starting to curl downward? if pics are needed i might be able to get some on
hey can you help me as you seem to know what you are talking about and i havent a clue i am growing 1 violator kush in my bedroom closet it is now 2 weeks into flower and huge there is not much room left in the closset for it to grow anymore when i was checking it tonight just to give her some love i noticed the back leaves have loads of brown freckely spots on it oh by the way i am using hydro never used before , so it is mainly on the fan leaves 2 or 3 are effected , sorry i am shit at this plus female so havent a clue . i am using fero bloom east anglia region and was giving her 18 nuets and ph was at 5,8 , her last feed was 20 and 5,8 ph she is on 2 day plain water at the moment i am a bit worried about these spots they are just like freckels , can you explain to me in simple terms what this could be and how to resolve it as i dont want to lose another plant as 1 was dug up from my garden and robbed and need to keep this one healthy to pay my elec bill , i noticed this the other day but didnt really see the full extent, what can it be i have a 600 watt sodium and a tower fan in closet and a fan outside of closset but it is a very small space i would say 2 ft by 3ft height isnt an issue well it is going to be if she doesnt stop growing , plant looks healthy other wise i put her into flower at 2ft she was showing pre flower when she went over, i did spray her with water on a number of occassions, these leaves that are effected are half way down the plant so could it be because i had sprayed her when in veg and these are water burns ? oh i am also using 5ml of liquid oxegen in my feed ???????? she is now well over 5ft and only 2 weeks into flower when will she stop growing and start putting her energy into budding? i will take her out of that room tomorrow and just stand her in my bedroom under the light so she has plenty more room to grow , could this be condensation from leaves touching wall, my friend says it could be thrips but i cannot see any and to tell you the truth i dont really know what i am looking for. it does get pretty hot in there but i try to regulate the temp by opening windows as i cant get an exstractor fan in there as too small i thought violator kush was a small bushy plant not a humungus bloody tree i have 20 heads on it and all look brill buds are size of my little finger already . i cant remember if i used tap water to spray, but unlikley as i stand water every night, if i did could this be cloriform from water doing it arggggggghhhhh please help me thanks
Katatawnic
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Wait, what?! Being "clueless" has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with not having learned something.
RE: spraying/misting while vegging, a good rule of thumb is to do this only when the lights first come on (unless they put out too much heat right away), and when they go off. And not during flowering, unless you "know" what you're doing. If you were misting during the veg cycle and are now two weeks into the flowering cycle, then I highly doubt there's any burn appearing from that now. That may not tell you what the problem is, but it can tell you what it isn't.
I most often hear/read that the (majority of the) plant growth stops about four weeks into 12/12. I'm sure that's strain/environment dependant, though.
Wish I could help with the spots, but I haven't a clue -- I've not yet learned enough to diagnose.
Chumlie
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uncle ben I got problem that I have had before, I think it is slowly correcting but I'm not sure. I was wondering if the leaves slightly droop(none happy plant) and have little ridges down the leaf surface, wave like, if that was a sign of thirst. I will never use peat pots again. They dry out to fast.
Uncle Ben
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Sounds like a condition of moisture stress. Peat is a wonderful wick.
It's OK to use peat pots to start in, just be sure that when you upcan that no peat is showing.
Good luck,
Ben