FranJan
Well-Known Member
Before I begin this is all complete speculation, (hey ya gotta start somewhere, right? 
), and this is an idea I kinda put together today while trying to figure out what is going on with PSUAGRO.'s favorite autos.
So I've been looking around at people's LED grows all over the internet for a little while and many grows are usually on the difficult side. Lots of ugly leaves, (my self especially
), less than stellar results from good growers and lots of speculation on what went wrong more often than what went right. And it is difficult for people to compare notes when their styles, strains used, and grow habits differ from each other so much. Plus the fact that we can't exactly march into some lab and start doing samples and such because of the illegality of it all makes it that much more difficult to get some real data to each other. But there are some things that we LED growers do have in common, and one of them is we are using the same colored diodes. Now I don't particularly like the majority of blue LEDs for various reasons, with the most important reason being that blue LEDs can cause a wide variety of negative biological responses among people and animals. One of the things they discovered when they first started producing LED back-lighting for LCD TVs is that if you used lots of blue diodes in the backlight, people's melatonin levels dropped in all test subjects exposed to long periods of watching TV on these new LED TVs. They also found out peoples eyesight and color perception temporarily went to shit after long exposure, plus they got headaches and had difficulty sleeping. So after a bit they realized that using too many blue LEDs caused these responses and reduced the number of blue LED used and these problems went away for the majority of people. Now in 1995 they discovered melatonin in some plants, then they discovered that some plants in fact used melatonin to deal with environmental stresses, free radicals, and control their sleep patterns among other things. So today I stumbled on these two papers, (here and here), that put these thoughts and questions in my mind:
"Since we're using a non-traditional/artificial light, are we causing our plants some kind of photo-biological stresses, and if marijuana contains and uses melatonin to regulate stress, are the blue LEDs lowering our cannabis plants melatonin levels so low it is unable to deal with these stresses, thus causing all these "Cal/Mag" type problems? Can we add melatonin to our plants diet? Or to our microbe's diet and will the plant absorb it through it's roots? Will careful selection of blue LEDs and proper ratio to red diodes reduce or eliminate this, if indeed it is happening?"
I haven't completely read and absorbed these entire papers yet, but there is some enticing info in them, and I am wondering if anyone knows anything about the relationship between marijuana and melatonin? And not how taking melatonin before you smoke and sleep tweaks your dreams, which sounds pretty cool and seems to be all the info on melatonin and cannabis I can dig up on Google. Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? Anyone?
), and this is an idea I kinda put together today while trying to figure out what is going on with PSUAGRO.'s favorite autos. So I've been looking around at people's LED grows all over the internet for a little while and many grows are usually on the difficult side. Lots of ugly leaves, (my self especially
), less than stellar results from good growers and lots of speculation on what went wrong more often than what went right. And it is difficult for people to compare notes when their styles, strains used, and grow habits differ from each other so much. Plus the fact that we can't exactly march into some lab and start doing samples and such because of the illegality of it all makes it that much more difficult to get some real data to each other. But there are some things that we LED growers do have in common, and one of them is we are using the same colored diodes. Now I don't particularly like the majority of blue LEDs for various reasons, with the most important reason being that blue LEDs can cause a wide variety of negative biological responses among people and animals. One of the things they discovered when they first started producing LED back-lighting for LCD TVs is that if you used lots of blue diodes in the backlight, people's melatonin levels dropped in all test subjects exposed to long periods of watching TV on these new LED TVs. They also found out peoples eyesight and color perception temporarily went to shit after long exposure, plus they got headaches and had difficulty sleeping. So after a bit they realized that using too many blue LEDs caused these responses and reduced the number of blue LED used and these problems went away for the majority of people. Now in 1995 they discovered melatonin in some plants, then they discovered that some plants in fact used melatonin to deal with environmental stresses, free radicals, and control their sleep patterns among other things. So today I stumbled on these two papers, (here and here), that put these thoughts and questions in my mind:"Since we're using a non-traditional/artificial light, are we causing our plants some kind of photo-biological stresses, and if marijuana contains and uses melatonin to regulate stress, are the blue LEDs lowering our cannabis plants melatonin levels so low it is unable to deal with these stresses, thus causing all these "Cal/Mag" type problems? Can we add melatonin to our plants diet? Or to our microbe's diet and will the plant absorb it through it's roots? Will careful selection of blue LEDs and proper ratio to red diodes reduce or eliminate this, if indeed it is happening?"
I haven't completely read and absorbed these entire papers yet, but there is some enticing info in them, and I am wondering if anyone knows anything about the relationship between marijuana and melatonin? And not how taking melatonin before you smoke and sleep tweaks your dreams, which sounds pretty cool and seems to be all the info on melatonin and cannabis I can dig up on Google. Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? Anyone?
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