TGA and Sensi hempy's...

I've started a number of threads on here but have yet to keep a steady journal. So pop a squat and lets see if I can't bring something to the table for the RIU community.

I currently have 11 seedlings growing in their 20 oz Styrofoam hempy cups. The cups consist of nothing but Perlite.

Here are the strains.

TGA: Agent Orange (3), Ace Of Spades (3), Jack The Ripper (1).

Sensi Seeds: Jack Herer (2)

And 2 unknown Auto seeds. (never tried an auto strain so I thought I'd see how they work.)


Nutrients:
-Maxibloom (veg & flower)
-Dyna Gro Pro-tekt
-Advanced Nutrients Overdrive
-Roots accelerator

So far I haven't had too many issues, although they have only been in the cups for 2 weeks. Still little young-ans. I just introduced Nutrients to them 4 days ago and they seem to be handling it alright. This is my first attempt at using hempy buckets though so it'll take some getting used to. There are a couple of things bothering me that are shown in the pictures below.




In this picture below, You can see the strange growth of Jack The Ripper. It seems to have "topped" itself almost. I can't say I've seen this sort of growth before. Although after the seed sprouted from the Jiffy seed starter, it had two plants growing. I've read of this happening but honestly I think one plant would thrive better, So i just snipped it off. However I didn't touch this portion of the plant so I don't understand the odd growth.


This picture is one of the Agent Oranges. The Focus in this picture is the bottom leaf. I'm sure it's not a big deal but if anyone has any input on what could have caused this, feel free to post. If the problem persists as the plants get bigger I'll be sure to post pictures so I can get it resolved quicker. I'm awful at determining deficiencies.

This Is just another picture of the same leaf "spots".



This picture above is showing the algae or mold growing on top of the perlite. I was just curious if this was something that was normal? Or is this stuff even harmful?



And here is one more picture of the algae/mold. This stuff has a much browner look to it (obviously). Again, not sure what to do about this stuff if i should even worry about it at all.

And just for something to look at, here are a couple pictures of some of the nugs from my most previous grow.

This first one is "Punky Lion". It was a freebie bean so I wasn't really expecting much out of her. Surprisingly she was one of the heaviest yielding and potent strains of the bunch. Although I did have a horrible infestation of fungus gnats, nearly killing half my girls during veg. Regardless, this strain reminds me a lot of Seedsman White widow. It's very sweet smelling, but has a spicy/sweet taste when smoked. It seemed after a week being in the jar these nugs were finished curing. I mean they are rocks! And the smell is just unmistakeable. The high hits you pretty quick in the head, followed by a spacey relaxation. It's definitely a good mid to end of day smoke.


This second picture is from Reserva Privada's Silver Kush. This strain I pretty much gave up on halfway through flower. She was one of the plants that was infested with gnat's and nearly died. Im still convinced that the damage the larvae did on the root system caused this strain to suffer in the flower room (even though i killed the gnats before the light switch.).
Anyways, I just kept the girl in there because I had the room. 14 weeks in she finally had enough bud development to pull down. Although the nugs were extremely airy, they were absolutely frosted! And she stunk to high heaven. Definitely kush dominant. These nugs are still curing so I can't give an accurate analysis on taste and smell of the nugs yet.. I know they are still frosted though.

Hey nice strain choices r21. Love the TGA AO when my buddy was growing it. Looks like you have a good start so far.

One question about the seedlings and hempys, what ph are you watering with. My xp with hempy is that in veg you want a ph between 5.8-6.0.

Also I let my cups or buckets dry out completely between feedings. You can tell by the weight of the container when they are good and dry.
Once they are past the seedling stage and full juveniles I feed with every watering usually about every 2-4 days.

As far as the algae it doesn't necessarily harm anything but you can cover the cups with something like a sheet of paper with a hole cut for the stem,
or spray with a diluted hydrogen peroxide solution. Once the foilage grows in it will block the light from reaching the perlite.

Also those foam cups will let light into the root zone so look to transplant soon into dark buckets or tape around the cups to block light.

Right now ive been phing to about 6.0. I figured that would be a good starting point as its right in the middle of suggested ph values.
But thanks for the heads up on the foam cups leaking light. I didnt even consider that as a potential problem. But im assuming in another week or so they'll be ready for their new homes.

Sounds like you know what your doing. I have noticed when I transplant my hempys into fresh perlite I will get leaf burning. In some cases it is quite
severe. Usually though the new growth is healthy and green and within a couple weeks things are fine.

stoneslacker said:

Sounds like you know what your doing. I have noticed when I transplant my hempys into fresh perlite I will get leaf burning. In some cases it is quite
severe. Usually though the new growth is healthy and green and within a couple weeks things are fine.

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I wonder why the fresh perlite burns the leafs so bad. I am using the dyna gro protekt which is supposively great for general plant health (branch strength, stress resistance etc). Wo hopefully they arent to frightened when i transplant.

Honestly though, i might end up putting most of these into soil pots to become mothers. I just threw 5 plants (punky lion, martian kush, skywalker og) into the flower room so these will be too large to flower in my room any how. But we will see. Whatever happens, itll be updated here

Well I'm sorry for the delayed update. But I haven't had too much attention here yet so I figured it could wait. Plus their isn't much to see really (no bud porn anyways).

So far I'm liking the hempys. It's really simple watering as if it were soil, only without the salt buildup that soil brings. The plants appear to be very healthy and only signs of weakness are the lanky branches. But this is due to the lighting. They are under my cloning light which is only a 2 bulb T-8. This will change tomorrow when I put them in their 2 gallon buckets.

Well, here's some pictures and progress..

1. Just a group shot of the bunch. You can see not much yellowing or deficiencies so far. Still only feeding with MaxiBloom, Protekt, and roots excel.. PPM is around 800.

2. Here is a group shot of the 3 Agent Oranges. All three of these are looking very promising in terms of growth. I can't wait to see what they do in flower!

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3. Here is a closer look at one of the Agent Orange. This one is my 2nd favorite pheno so far. The side branching is really impressive for such a young plant (compared to all the others anyways). Definitely a characteristic that I like.


4. This is yet another Agent Orange plant, which happens to be my favorite of the three. This one has good side branching (not as much as the one above, but still worthy of mentioning.) and hefty branches. I believe this one may be a big yielder if it turns out to be female. We shall see.

5. Here's a group shot of the 3 Ace Of Spades. Ignore the plant on the right, it's kind of droopy since today was day 3 without water (just watered after these pictures were taken.) These plants are my second favorite after the Agent orange. These aren't branching out as much yet, but they have relatively close nodes and thick branches.


6. This is one of the Ace Of Spades up close. This one is my favorite so far, for similar reasons to the agent orange. The side branching is there and the branches are thick. This particular pheno of the 3 seems to be a little sensitive to nutes though. Some of the leaves seem to be curling/shrinking up in themselves, if that makes sense. Other than that she looks great, just gotta remember to give her a slightly diluted nute mix.

7. These two are the Sensi Jack Herer. Now I wasn't sure what to expect from these, but so far they are doing alright. They are a little lanky for my taste, but I'll tell you they are the stinkiest of the bunch. You'd think they were starting to flower.


8. A closer look at the Jack Herer. It's a very uniform plant, and handles the nutrients just fine. Can't really complain.


9. And here is the 2nd Jack herer. This one is healthy as well but the nodes aren't growing as close together as it's sister. Again, this is probably due to the lighting, or lack of lighting I should say.

10. Now this is a very special plant to say the least. This is the Jack The Ripper that has just been outrageous it's whole life. This plant when germinated and planted, sprouted two plants !! I cut one of them down to ensure healthy growth. But once the seedling started growing I noticed the double tops (without any topping or training) which I posted in a previous picture... Well now that it's a little bigger you can see what I'm talking about. I don't know how this happened or why, but I'm not complaining. Very cool and healthy plant.


11. Here's a shot of the two Autoflowers. I topped the one on the right so it's a little shorter than the other. Also the one on the left is already starting to bud !!!


12. A closer look at the autoflower that is already budding. I can't believe it's already started. Especially since the light is on 24/7. Looks like I better switch to 18/6 soon.

I forgot to mention the age of these. They are at day 32 from sprouting from the jiffy seed starters. So if you say the seedling stage is two weeks, Then these plants are about 2 weeks into veg.

Tough crowd around here. Anybody have any tips as far as these strains go?
Training, nutrient uptake etc..

Subbed up. Sorry don't have any info on the particular strains, but they all look great so keep doing what you are doing.

Bucees said:

Subbed up. Sorry don't have any info on the particular strains, but they all look great so keep doing what you are doing.

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Not a problem man. I just appreciate you stopping in and checking it out. And thanks, I'm pretty content with their health, considering the nutrients that they're fed.
I'll be transplanting them into 2 gal hempy's tomorrow (hopefully) with 100% perlite again. They'll also get moved under a 400w mh so I'm anxious to seethe growth progress in a couple weeks. I'll have new pics in the near future

Transfer those into final buckets!! They get fully rooted when they're the size of the medium they're in, specially with excel, by now they're overly bound for sure. Also I've read a lot on soil/nutes to improve my game in those departments and everyone I've seen using the following is kicking up beautiful crops, green til the end!

Soil- FFOF, dolomite to manage PH, azomite for micros and great plant structure, more castings, and possibly some green sand. Perlite always good. It seems these things all provide an appropriate level of base nutes for good stable growth.

Nutes- Get away from the high K-p ratios in veg. Ive read it over and over on here and looking back on my experiences it's true. Weed wants mainly N! Use 3-1-2 or 2-1-2 ratios through veg then mix something more like 1-3-2 or 1-3-1 on an alternating basis. I believe this to be more effective as I did better when I used more N and less of all the flowering shit out there. I think a nice stable soil mix with a simple-steady no gimmicks feed schedule will make you real happy.

ALSO! don't PH your water!! im telling you I rly have had better results w/o wasting all that time trying to hit 6.5! A good medium like the one I mentioned it will remain very consistent as long as your feeding between 5/5.5-7.5/8. Somehow I managed better results the grow I used ph down to get round 6.5 before adding foxfarm nutes which bring it way down!! go figure..

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once transplanted into the new hempy's the roots have to hit the bottom rez, but once they do.....Game on!! Looks good and good luck. I have(4) 2gallon verm/perlite hempy's now.

@Youknowthekid : thanks for your thoughts but I've tried soil (ffof) and their nutes, didnt care for it. I think hydro/passive hydro is the only way to do it. And honestly despite your obnoxious taunting of my nutrient mix, my plants are healthy and growing. And as for ph'ing the solution, i dont need to with my mix. It mixes at a consistant 6.1~6.2. I hope your no ph adjustment comment was referring to soil plants though.

tikitoker said:

once transplanted into the new hempy's the roots have to hit the bottom rez, but once they do.....Game on!! Looks good and good luck. I have(4) 2gallon verm/perlite hempy's now.

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Thanks for stopping in . But yes of course! Im not expecting the roots to take long to hit the bottom res. When i transplant, the existing roots will only be 1" or so above the res. So a week after the transplant I'm sure theyll take off.