Pure Power Plant Perpetual Ebb and Flow

StreetRider

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Greeting.

I figured it was time to start my own grow journal if I am going to stick around.

What I am up to...

Pure Power Plant from Nirvana
Perpetual grow.
5' x 5' myar coated room
600 watt HPS
Air cooled hood - 6" inline fan
Ebb and Flow 3' x 3' tray.
General Hydroponics 3 part Floral
Majical
R.O. Water
72 - 80 degrees
49 - 51% R.H.

Mothers are under 4 - 4' FL tubes in a homemade Ebb and Flow.

RootTech Cloning gel.

It looks like I will pull some every 2 weeks or so depending on how full I get the tray and have to wait for room for the next couple of plants.

I am still fighting algea and the damn gnats that come with it, but I am up to the fight.

Tomarrow I am going to pick up either Hygrozyme or SM-90 and add that to help combat the proble.

35% Hydrogen Peroxide has helped, but the problem may be to far along. I am going to do everything I can to not have to abort the room. I have it up and starting to cycle now.

I am still trying to nail down the best method ot grow this strain in the setup I have. Weither small single buds are the way to go or if 2 colas, 4 colas, or if sea of green plants are the way to go.

Below are some pictures of the setup and of the second little girl to come out.
I hope I can encourage someone to do much better then me and I also hope that someone stopping by can add to my little bit of knowledge.


Hope a few of you guys stick around and watch this soar or sink.
 

StreetRider

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Well, I picked up a bottle of Hygrozyme today. If it does half of what it should it will be well worth the $40.00.

Here is the game plan.

I am running a strong dose of H2O2 tonite to try and kill of some of the algea and root crap.

Tomarow I will pull a couple of plants that are at 9 1/2 weeks. All cloudy very little amber. And start tohose drying.

Clean up the tray and res. Run Hydrozyme @ 8ml per gallon with phed ro water for 2 hours straight.

Drain that, and refill with the Hydrozyme and RO water again. Run that for the next day of normal cycle.

Drain that and refill with the Hydrozyme/water, but this time add my nutes back to the mix.

I will keep changing out the mix for 5 days as suggested by some of the users on here.

If all goes well, I plan on running it at 8 ml/gallon from here on out.
 

StreetRider

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Well, Hygrozyme is in and so far so good. I am going to run just water and that @ 8ml/gallon for 24 hours then add nutes again.
 

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Here are some pics of what I have pulled so far.

These are at right around 9 1/2 weeks.

The middle on weights around 100 g's dripping wet, and the far right around 52 grams wet. The far left I never weighted so I did not do it this time. I wanna see the perfentage loss do to drying.

The last picture is of the room as it stands today.
 

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Well, over 24 hours the Hygrozyme raised the ph by 0.8. I can live with controlling that. I decided to repalce with a fresh mix and run one more day of just the Hygrozme and R.O. water.

Tuesday I will go back to nutes while still running this. I plan on just keeping a close eye on the water quality and see if I can get away with running it almost 1 week after changing it the first two days. The water was just a little cloudy, 1 more day should tell me if the water is gonna get real bad or not. I can tell you that the water and area smell fresh and clean right now and all is looking good.
 

StreetRider

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Well,

Day number three has passed, and I added back half strength nutes to the res. and adjusted the ph. The Hygrozyme seemed to try and drive the ph up 0.8 to 1.0 every 24 hours. It must be it breaking down the old roots and what not. I just put some into a jar last night, to start curing and some will go in tonigte. It smells so fruity right now. Very unexpected.
 

StreetRider

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Well, I just got done sampling some of the 9 1/2 week PPP. And all I can say is nice. So, much better then Bag Seed that looked so nice and impressed my friends. Nice fruity taste, and 2 tokes in, nice feeling. I wish I had let them go another 1 or 2 weeks, but for being almost 100% cloudy trichromes... I like.

Below is a picture of the 2 I pulled at 9 1/2 weeks. Interesting fact. Almost 100g's/57g's wet, 37g's and 27g's into the curing jar. The scale I used sucks, the next time I will use a better one, and I want to start and graph them out and come up with a % of water loss as a base point for starting the cure. I measured them each day, but with the crappy hanging scale I used the data is amusing, but not valuable.

Thank god for spell check, as that test is relly kicking me in the ass.
 

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StreetRider

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I figured I would include a snap shot of my 3rd generation clone mother. I am actually going to up 4 clones off of her now. She is a good cloner, and have only lost 1 out47 uts. And she was my first. I lost my cloning cherry to PPP and she was kind to me.

I hate to lose her as I love her fruity taste. I am going to add a bag seed Snow White cross to the room and see what happens. I still want to find a nice quick crop. The strain "The Wreck" looks nice and can be pulled from clone at 40 - 50 days according to the breeder, HHF.
 

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Dubstepn

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Kick ass man. Lots of pics and it looks like you've got your shit together. Makes me wonder why no ones posting.....Did you shit in the R.I.U. coffee pot this morning????


Im scribed. Im also growing PPP and it's nice to see others progress. Keep em coming man
 

StreetRider

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Thanks man, for some reason no one likes my log.

I will be updating some more today.

Tonight I wanna talk about gnats and gnat control. I think I found a product that works.
 

Dubstepn

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Excited to hear it. It really was just the time of year for gnats. All mine are gone now but our house use to be full of em. Sucked. But as soon as it gets cold outside they seem to disappear. :)
 

StreetRider

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Had to chop some. Some of them were showing signs of the begings of powdery mold so I pulled them. They were right around 10 weeks so I figured why risk it.

You can see some of the brown leaves on the longest one at the top. And this happened with keeping the r.h. down at 45%. I want to run it lower, but my mothers are breathing the same air.

I think I will have to break down and give a sulfur burner a try. I know I can control the humidity so if I can break the cycle with some sulfur I should only need to do it once in a great while.
 

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StreetRider

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goGnats

I love this stuff. It cost me $20 at the local shop.

I mixed it at 1 oz per gallon (30 ml/gallon) with my nutes. No sign of it really effecting the PH. I did not check the PPM as I was afraid of that number. It does make your water a solid white color.

I only ran it in the flower room for 2 day, but it WORKED! Not a gnat to be seen. And once I changed the nutes I found TONS of dead larva in the bottom of the tray. So, I cleaned them out for the next two days and all looks good. I am sure that my roots love me for it.

I plan on running it again for a week straight at the next res change and kill off any survivors that should end the cycle for some time.

It's main ingredient is Cedar oil, and you can smell it. While it is in the tank our whole room smells like a ceader cabinet, but it does not seem to effect the smell of the plant, but I still would say try to use it with more then 2 weeks left in your cycle.

If you think you have a gnat problem I suggest you use this stuff. "It kills bugs dead."
 

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MEANGREEN69

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just came arcoss ur log, i like it... im running something like urs just a 4x4 tray with

two 600watters in a tent, but i do have a Q for you: how if at all do u flush ur plants

when ur running a perpetual grow?? thats the prob im comeing too i dont know if i

should put them on bricks in the tray and hand water them?? or just dont flush at

all?? it a cash corp and i know most ppl dont know the differnts but i like too have

the best..meangreen.
 

StreetRider

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It's nice to see some people stop by.

I have not worried about flushing yet. And, so far there has been no harshness or any problems. Even right off of the drying line they are sweet and ready to go, and after a week or so of curing they are a little better.

I did try running a 3 day straight water flush and followed up with a weak nutes mix for 4 days then picked some and there was no real difference as far as I can see. I am sure the system would be happier if you flushed it for even just a few days every once in a while to help cut the salt build up.

Take in mind I am only running at around 600 ppm per my digital meter. When I run mine higher it starts to burn them. Maybe it is because I am running smaller plants in the small tubs with small roots..... Small + Small + Small = small.

I will add some update photos thursday night. There is a nice little baby at 10 weeks from 12/12.
 

MEANGREEN69

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600ppms is very low but u show no lack of nutes..that strain must not like much..cause some of swims babys can take up to 2000ppm befor ne burn..that a good thing i guess less cash on nutes..
 

StreetRider

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I am sorry, but no photos today. Not a charged AA in the house.. Sorry. I pulled that plant and I will post some picks of it hanging soon.

I can tell you that I need to do something about mold.mildew/fungus. The sulfur with probably happen this weekend. It is my fault, the basement used to be damp, and I never properly cleaned and sterilized. I am still getting good off, but it seems like all of them show some sign of damage. Mostly on the leaves, but I know it's no good for the plant.

I look at it this way. I am new to this and I am still learning week by week. I just know it still beats spending money on mexi-brick-a-crap! Still much better then what we normally would spend our hard earned cash on. I look at it as a challenge. As I figure out a problem and solve it everything just gets that much better.

I can tell you that I am glad I added the Hygrozyme and the goGnats. I could see damaged roots and I can see where replacement roots had started growing on the one I pulled. So, I expect everything to keep getting better and better.

Thanks for stopping by.
 
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