4x4 grow room clean slate

Ok i have constructed a small 4x4x8ft high grow closet. I really want to grow with cfl's only and soil . I will post pics and a diagram asap .my question is what is the number1 most effective way to use cfls in this space. I currently have 2 vanity light fixtures each with four standard sockets with y adapters i can run 16 cfls in those. I cant really explain the setup but i again will post pics soon. Looking for any budget minded tips and pointers about lighting ,soil,anything.i love walmart i am hoping to base my entire grow on walmart goods and making a "how-to" video as i grow.

Thanks for reading looking forward to your input

winkdogg

i love walmart lolol that is too funny. southpark episode

thanks bud

well walmart has good deals on cfls
like 7$ for 2 6500k 26watts
and they had a 6 pack of 26 watt 2700k for like 13 i think

let me see what the vanity fixtures look like ?

a 4 X 4 requires 1000 watts of HPS. good luck.

fdd2blk said:

a 4 X 4 requires 1000 watts of HPS. good luck.

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why a 1000watt?? thats 62.50watts per sqft.. i thought u only need 20 too 25watts per sqft.....i know that more is maryer but why did u pick 1000watt hps..thanks

MEANGREEN69 said:

why a 1000watt?? thats 62.50watts per sqft.. i thought u only need 20 too 25watts per sqft.....i know that more is maryer but why did u pick 1000watt hps..thanks

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that's pretty much how it goes. a 1000w covers a 4 x 4 area.

please don't take this as an attempt to hijack a thread but what area would you recommend for a 400 watt mh. I was thinking 3X3

My 600 covers my 3.3x3.3 area just about perfectly. I used to have a 400 HPS and my space was about the same size, but not nearly the yield.

winkdogg420 said:

i love walmart i am hoping to base my entire grow on walmart goods and making a "how-to" video as i grow.

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Walmart and other companies like Walmart play huge role in why our
economy is in the shithole.
If you wanna help the economy, buy your supplies from your local Mom-n-Pop shop.
Why would you wanna buy cheap Chinese crap anyways?

50 years ago i would have agreed with you . But now that the economy is already in the shitter im to broke to shop at mom and pop stores. Also most mom and pop shops are now sellling the same crap as walmart bc of the high price of american labor. I didnt creat this situation i just have no choice but to live in it.

Ps if walmart is a trigger word im sorry . I just am trying to grow for fun on a budget.

Winkdogg

thanks to all with replies about my grow .

BongJuice said:

Walmart and other companies like Walmart play huge role in why our
economy is in the shithole.
If you wanna help the economy, buy your supplies from your local Mom-n-Pop shop.
Why would you wanna buy cheap Chinese crap anyways?

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im gonna have to place the blame 100% on our gov for the economy.
oil trading on the stock market??? speculators controlling the price .. by .. speculating ? gimme a fuckn break
if hemp was legal, the economy would be way better

420weedman said:

im gonna have to place the blame 100% on our gov for the economy.
oil trading on the stock market??? speculators controlling the price .. by .. speculating ? gimme a fuckn break
if hemp was legal, the economy would be way better

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Hemp is the answer for many of our current and future problems.(when i say OUR, i mean the poor people, Americans, the majority)

i got a better idea ! , lets give away billions of dollars to help other countries !

hemp will go a long way to fixing shit thats for sure.

I vote Hemp!!!

this election reminds me of that old Richard Pryor movie, Bresters Millions

Vote "none of the above!"

ron paul would have gotten the feds out of the pot issue

i am capable of running 16 CFL bulbs but for now i am only running 8 should i run 8 6500k bulbs or 6-6500ks and 2-2700k? when the plants get a canopy i will run all 16 mixed 50/50...

thoughts ...sugestions??

WINKDOGG

MEANGREEN69 said:

why a 1000watt?? thats 62.50watts per sqft.. i thought u only need 20 too 25watts per sqft.....i know that more is maryer but why did u pick 1000watt hps..thanks

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fdd2blk said:

a 4 X 4 requires 1000 watts of HPS. good luck.

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I would question FDD if i were you, the last person that did ended up somewhere in Siberia.


But not to be a brown nose, but when i was reading your initial post, i was thinking 1000w, and then when you said CFL, i thought ! CFLs are great for micro growers, but once you are above 3x3x6, they are just useless IMHO. After that point, the money saved by using CFLs is surpassed by the effectiveness of HIDs. You can use the same wattage necessary and get better results with HIDs. You could probably get away with a 600w or 2 400w's [but why not do something to the best of your ability?] And if its the cost of the HIDs that bothers you, the go to www.e-conolight.com and go to vapor tights, and then to 150w HPS. They're $20 each, and you can get 5-7. And built DIY cooltubes using bake a rounds.

If it were me, i would divide this into 2- 2x4 rooms, flower and veg. i would have a 400w or 600w MH veg and a 600w HPS for flower [both with cooltubes and digital ballasts]. I would run a seperate ventilation system for each room, both with carbon filters. I would run either a SOG/Lollypop or a ScrOG.

But, the best of luck to you.

i was talking to dude at the hydro store the other day. i told him i have a 3 X 6 X 6 with two 600's. i wanted to go to one 1000 on a light rail. he suggested switching to two 750w HPS instead.