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[jondamon]

Personally I think flushing (pouring vast amounts of water through the rootzone) is a pointless excercise that does nothing more than create a drastic reduction in rootzone EC causing reverse osmosis in the rootzone, which can cause the roots to stop up taking nutrients. Leading to deficiency symptoms pH problems.


J

 

[smokeytokeybear]

let.me.reprase that, i feed two times a week and the third watrring is straight
distilled, sometimes with alittle mag in it, i never just dump crazy amounts of water
in the pot" flushing"

 

[~Dankster~420]

I personally flush 1 mayber twice with "ph'd molasses water" and don't have 1 lick of problems. I do this flush period the duration of 5 days to a week max! Then chop those bitches down.

 

[jondamon]

I feed right up until harvest.


Never a plain water day in my garden.



J

 

[smokeytokeybear]

you dont get any buildups.??? what nutes you using

 

[~Dankster~420]

I don't see how some don't get burns from feeding every watering. I know if I was to do that, my girls would just fall right the hell over! Me personally I don't think its good to pump all of the nutrients into them if not needed. I've seen killer looking plants just grown in "soil & feed nothing but water" and that's it.

 

[simisimis]

for me it seems more reasonable to feed less but with the same amounts rather than give too much then nothing.. it's like I would be eating A LOT for two days and 3rd stay on water on the 3rd day I would be starving.. but I'm not a plant.. ofc if giving too much, that makes sence, but giving too much means also making some lockouts.. but then again, you've grown way longer than me..

 

[jondamon]

I grow in coco and monitor EC in vs EC out.

Click the link in my sig and you'll see what I'm talking about.


By monitoring my IN vs OUT EC I can keep an eye on what's happening in the rootzone along with gauging plant reactions to the last EC feed.



J

 

[jondamon]

If I've over done the feeding I just back off the EC until corrected.


Never do I use plain tap water, other than when cloning.



J

 

[jondamon]

Here is a list of everything I use.

CANNA AQUA VEGA (2 part) NPK 6-3-8 from start to finish.
CANNA RHIZOTONIC
CANNAZYM
CANNA MONO CA
CANNA MONO MG
CANNA PK1314
Potassium Silicat aka liquid silicon.


J

 

[smokeytokeybear]

i like distilled water, taps all messed up around here

 

[g00sEgg]

i like distilled water, taps all messed up around here

The water around here is usually around 7.8. A little ph down and I'm all set.

 

[jondamon]

My tap water has an EC of 0.2.

Around 150ppm.

Made up of nitrate, phosphate, chlorine, fluoride, calcium etc.

PH straight out of the tap 7.4.

Allowed to off gas and it reduces to a stable 6.8.


J

 

[smokeytokeybear]

can you explain off gas?

 

[g00sEgg]

can you explain off gas?

I think he means let it sit for a few days in the dark. I used to do that...throw a oxygen stone in there and your good after a few days.

 

[jondamon]

I think he means let it sit for a few days in the dark. I used to do that...throw a oxygen stone in there and your good after a few days.

That's it. Its just called off gasing in the aquarium world.


PH of tap water will generally be higher straight out of the tap.

Left to sit for 24 hours ( off gasing) will give you the true pH of the water.


J

 

[smokeytokeybear]

learn something new ery day thanks j

 

[simisimis]

My tap water has an EC of 0.2.

Around 150ppm.

Made up of nitrate, phosphate, chlorine, fluoride, calcium etc.

PH straight out of the tap 7.4.

Allowed to off gas and it reduces to a stable 6.8.


J

hey i see u in UK, where do you buy potasium silicate in eu? also could you recommend any speciffic nutes for the soil grow? 6-3-8 of canna aqua veg seems like a deal, can it be used in soil?
my tap water is at around 8.5, it drops to maybe 7.5 after letting it sit for day or two, and in nl its extremely low on calcium, never seen lime in my kettle as i was used to in Lt..

 

[jondamon]

hey i see u in UK, where do you buy potasium silicate in eu? also could you recommend any speciffic nutes for the soil grow? 6-3-8 of canna aqua veg seems like a deal, can it be used in soil?
my tap water is at around 8.5, it drops to maybe 7.5 after letting it sit for day or two, and in nl its extremely low on calcium, never seen lime in my kettle as i was used to in Lt..

I'm not a soil guy and don't try to be but the canna 6-3-8 should work fine every third watering.

I use GROWTH TECHNOLOGY LIQUID SILICON. Try amazon or eBay.

For soil ideally you need a pH of your nute solution to be 6.2-6.8.

Aim for 6.5 to be safe.


If your water is low on calcium you could look for dolomite lime to mix into your soil.

Or you could add 150ppm's of MONO Ca nutrient. Or a combined CALMAG nutrient.




J

 

[simisimis]

as always everything is delivered to uk, not nl, or delivery costs more than the product itself. However I found this http://www.potsil.com/ if you scrolldown a bit there is like 34% of posassium silica and guaranteed analysis 11%K 22%Si. Have you heard anything on that? Thanks