giggles26
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You got that lean bro? lol.
I think flushing is a myth heres why
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burgertime2010
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You seem to be passionate and knowledgeable when it comes to this touchy subject and I was wondering about something. Since water will not remove nutrients from the plant what about just doing a ph lockout? In theory, an extreme ph would hinder uptake of all the elements that flushing were to remove right? 3 days with nothing to eat might work like a fast cleanses the body. If this is old news I apologize. the bullshit out there is staggering and I am looking for a mor pragmatic way to go. If you have any light to shed on the matter it would greatly appreciated. Good Day!
Ninjabowler
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Just a question, why would you not just flush with water? Why would you want to cause a lockout by screwing the ph up when you can just let it drink water if all you want it to do is drink water?
VTMi'kmaq
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very good observation you got there. Read the whole thread and you can see who the antagonizers here at riu are, especially ones who need to comment on every persons opinion. If you like giving your plants straight water for the last couple weeks whathave you go ahead, who gives a damn what some moron from who knows where thinks about your garden? I have guys in there 60's who i let read some of the nonsense some of you folks post here and they just shake there heads, before all these company's and there liquid nute's were around guerilla growers were STILL producing phenomanol cannabis, someone starts a thread and the grabass crew here at riu will be all over it. Go back into the thread and the culprits stand out! No wonder so many folks move on from here.
Sir.Ganga
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I know a few that do noy flush and there product looks and tastes OK. The point is we all know that fertilizers wether organic or chemical are in the plant, now it becomes a personal choice from this point.
I've done both and have tested both and from my finding and for me...I will always flush with plain water. Heavy metals are one of the worst thing you can injest and if a little water removes the majority of it... Im all over it.
Each to their own though.
I've done both and have tested both and from my finding and for me...I will always flush with plain water. Heavy metals are one of the worst thing you can injest and if a little water removes the majority of it... Im all over it.
Each to their own though.
burgertime2010
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I was responding to all the ideas in regard to the flush with one of my own. I always have used water and believe it works however I do not have any factual evidence that supports that. If flushing is a myth then what??? It might be a terrible idea to lockout I am just curious about it.
burgertime2010
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The solution to pollution is dilution.
Ninjabowler
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It just seems weird to cause ph lockout on purpose, sounds dirty and hard pn the plant.
I think the best advice on this thread for the non flush side was by uncle pirate, (even though i had to butt some heads to get it) when he said that he never flushes but only runs 200-400 ppms at the end. Smart. Cannabitual had some great advice for Hydro saying he adds 500 ppm at five days from chop to the res and lets the plants finnish out with water from there. Smart....
The flush side has made many claims of jankey tasting garbage weed that doesnt burn worth crap which weve all sampled before that hasnt been flushed. The concensus from most that ive talked to is that cannabis should be yellowing when it comes down to a degree and mildly flushed, not two weeks straight water but who knows, if your plant is still green as when you first transplanted her you might need two weeks....
As a noob ive learned from this thread if not flushing do not run 1600 ppm until chop. Do not stick to a constant schedule of flushing if possible, use your instinct and read the plant. And every person out there has a different opinion on this topic and 95% of growers wont learn anything new so dont try and tell them you have a better way. There still isnt enough posted science on this thread to convince me whos right but i think i will use all of the advice taken and use my better judgement in the end.
If you have science post it, plz
burgertime2010
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It is ridiculous to dismiss any idea because it "seems" like whatever. I am not teaching, or suggesting you try anything except to stop this contrarian behavior. You call yourself a noob and still you know best.
Ninjabowler
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Dude im not trashing on your idea, im just sayin, if you want to have it just drink water, then why wouldnt you just do that. Youd spend money and ph up/down solution to do what you are trying to accomplish with just water right?
If you have a couple plants you want to test it out on go ahead. Start a thread. Ill subscribe, im interested in the idea. I didnt say anything except ask why youd do it...and give a recap of the thread for any viewers that werent up to speed on the thread score right now with my opinion that wasnt even an opinion at the end.
And i said that some of the best info on the thread was posted by uncle pirate. The man ive been debating with for 15 pages. Wake up. Wtf does blow hard have to do with my last two posts?
Ninjabowler
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You know what bro, if you think im a blow hard for questioning your idea to saturate the medium in acid and hope for the best then i am a blow hard. Run that one past the pros and get their opinion, im a noob wtf do you care about mine for. Go get laughed at by professionals and call them blow hards.
sippinslurpies
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Ive just smoked my first joint of some bud that i picked before flushing and dried quickly in about 4 days without a cure and I am high as fuck with no bad taste. I'm guessing though that if i were to smoke a whole bunch of it i'd most likely get a bad taste.
I'll see how i go in a few weeks with the flushed slow dried and cured product.
I'll see how i go in a few weeks with the flushed slow dried and cured product.
209 Cali closet grower
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I like to run water the last week in my soil mix, as I nute heavy the last weeks. I can go one week with water, and my plants will go from green to yellow fast! My wife and friends say that my buds taste-so sweet , this run.
The only time my buds taste like shit was, because I got nutes lockout at the end of flower, because I was using molasses with my hydro nutes (yeah) and i kept pumping them with nutes, they where yellow sick looking and some tasted harsh or like shit. I just gave that weed away.
The only time my buds taste like shit was, because I got nutes lockout at the end of flower, because I was using molasses with my hydro nutes (yeah) and i kept pumping them with nutes, they where yellow sick looking and some tasted harsh or like shit. I just gave that weed away.
homebrewer
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3 Pounds of Weeden
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Flushing is a result of the grower. If you add too many chemicals or have an undesired PH then flush. If you have a great feeding schedule it is not needed. Only flush from veg to flower to rid that excess nitrogen.
Ninjabowler
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Hmm interesting idea about getting rid of the nitrogen, is that to trigger faster flower?
Bakatare666
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I think what he's getting at, is 3 days is not enough to accomplish anything, and his stuff still came out nice, so his deduction is that is 'flushing is a myth'.
Bakatare666
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"Veg to flower"?
Do you mean that contrary to what we're accustomed to, the plants don't use a bunch of N at the switch for the growth spurt?