If Tax cuts create jobs

NLXSK1

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OK I lied, it's not 4 weeks vacation, most companies offer 20 days vacation with 16 holidays.
Hey, I have an idea!! Lets have government force employers to give 6 months paid vacation off to every employee!!! That way they need twice the employees to run the business.

Unemployment solved!!!
 

Grandpapy

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I find it odd, that no one values time with the family as being an important part of our nations priorities.
Some would argue it's the main reason we have so much crime, violence, stress, depression, and most of the "get me through the day" drugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statutory_minimum_employment_leave_by_country
Its great that we can have two income households (60 years ago only one was needed) But whats sad is that children are being raised with the babysitters values, whom ever that might be on that day.
Quality of life is being overlooked.
If it cost us, as a nation, 30 cents out of every dollar to run the country (at this standard) how will we (the little guy) maintain the standard if the rich don't want to play and are happy to see it fall?
 

canndo

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I find it odd, that no one values time with the family as being an important part of our nations priorities.
Some would argue it's the main reason we have so much crime, violence, stress, depression, and most of the "get me through the day" drugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statutory_minimum_employment_leave_by_country
Its great that we can have two income households (60 years ago only one was needed) But whats sad is that children are being raised with the babysitters values, whom ever that might be on that day.
Quality of life is being overlooked.
If it cost us, as a nation, 30 cents out of every dollar to run the country (at this standard) how will we (the little guy) maintain the standard if the rich don't want to play and are happy to see it fall?


When talking about gays, or when talking in code, the right claims that the family is the most important part of our nation. they extol fatherhood and motherhood, they extol the virtue of 3.5 kids, a devoted mom, a hard working dad and the family dog.

but when it comes to actually supporting that unit, they couldn't care less.
 

DustBomb

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i dont see the big deal.... tax cuts given to starter business' and small business. In turn the man who complains go and make his own job and employs others.. what did u want the president to do... go and put walmarts in every town and employ everyone... u cant help ppl who dont wanna help themselves. then everyone wants to blame the budget... well at least 7 of it was spent finalizing the war, insuring injured troops, rebuilding what we blew up over seas.. most of which was done 8 years prior... dont forget everything isnt in the hands of the president.. thats y we have congress. but it seems like that no longer matters.. we put them there as a voice for us and it only seems that the government does what it think we need instead of what we ask for.... lets get these other ppl out.. they seem to be the problem
 

Mr Neutron

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I find it odd, that no one values time with the family as being an important part of our nations priorities.
Some would argue it's the main reason we have so much crime, violence, stress, depression, and most of the "get me through the day" drugs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statutory_minimum_employment_leave_by_country
Its great that we can have two income households (60 years ago only one was needed) But whats sad is that children are being raised with the babysitters values, whom ever that might be on that day.
Quality of life is being overlooked.
If it cost us, as a nation, 30 cents out of every dollar to run the country (at this standard) how will we (the little guy) maintain the standard if the rich don't want to play and are happy to see it fall?
I find it odd that nobody in the entire universe, except me values responsibility. Time off from work does not equate to a strong family. Responsibility does. So-called progressives have taken away responsibility and replaced it with dependency.
60 years ago, $20K/yr was a lot of money. Why is it we NEED two incomes now? Could it be that overbloated 10 ton gorilla in the room? You know the one that tells you how to live and not live your life? hmmmmm?
 

Grandpapy

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When talking about gays, or when talking in code, the right claims that the family is the most important part of our nation. they extol fatherhood and motherhood, they extol the virtue of 3.5 kids, a devoted mom, a hard working dad and the family dog.

but when it comes to actually supporting that unit, they couldn't care less.
LOL true. I read somewhere they only care about you until you are born, and then you are on your own until you are old enough to go to war for them.
 

DustBomb

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because everyone needs to be like the "jones".... they need to nice new car, nice big house, ppl would rather make tons of money instead of living a modest life and enjoying the time with family.. and in the end they wonder where all the time went... all that money and no one to spend it with.
 

abandonconflict

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because everyone needs to be like the "jones".... they need to nice new car, nice big house, ppl would rather make tons of money instead of living a modest life and enjoying the time with family.. and in the end they wonder where all the time went... all that money and no one to spend it with.
you are approved
Your job is your credit
No down payment
Low monthly payments



40 years later, still paying.
 

canndo

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I find it odd that nobody in the entire universe, except me values responsibility. Time off from work does not equate to a strong family. Responsibility does. So-called progressives have taken away responsibility and replaced it with dependency.
60 years ago, $20K/yr was a lot of money. Why is it we NEED two incomes now? Could it be that overbloated 10 ton gorilla in the room? You know the one that tells you how to live and not live your life? hmmmmm?
No it couldn't be government. It IS the fact that wages have not gone up while the cost of living has. Yet you still are directed to blam government for what corporations are doing.
 

abandonconflict

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No it couldn't be government. It IS the fact that wages have not gone up while the cost of living has. Yet you still are directed to blam government for what corporations are doing.
Sounds more like he is just parroting blame deflection talking points.

Corporations, government, same shit.
 

Mr Neutron

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No it couldn't be government. It IS the fact that wages have not gone up while the cost of living has. Yet you still are directed to blam government for what corporations are doing.
Are the corporations taking 30% of your wages? Are corporations robbing even more through unsound monetary practices, ie inflation? Are corporations destroying the Constitution? Are corporations sending troops to sovereign nations to change the regime? Are corporations failing at educating our children?
I don't know what you mean "being directed to blam" but it probably doesn't make any sense.
 

canndo

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Are the corporations taking 30% of your wages? Are corporations robbing even more through unsound monetary practices, ie inflation? Are corporations destroying the Constitution? Are corporations sending troops to sovereign nations to change the regime? Are corporations failing at educating our children?
I don't know what you mean "being directed to blam" but it probably doesn't make any sense.

They are opting to pay as they please - which is the statement I made - wages are flat over 30 years while productivity has increased.


Your original point was that a single wage earner was at one time capable of maintining a household and family. You seem to have insinuated that it was government that was the "gorilla in the room". I took issue with that presumption.

Your other references have nothing to do with that discussion.

You are directed by those who own your opinions to blame government.
 

Grandpapy

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Are the corporations taking 30% of your wages? Are corporations robbing even more through unsound monetary practices, ie inflation? Are corporations destroying the Constitution? Are corporations sending troops to sovereign nations to change the regime? Are corporations failing at educating our children?
I don't know what you mean "being directed to blam" but it probably doesn't make any sense.
Yes, they are.
 

Mr Neutron

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They are opting to pay as they please - which is the statement I made - wages are flat over 30 years while productivity has increased.


Your original point was that a single wage earner was at one time capable of maintining a household and family. You seem to have insinuated that it was government that was the "gorilla in the room". I took issue with that presumption.

Your other references have nothing to do with that discussion.

You are directed by those who own your opinions to blame government.
Wages aren't flat, don't be ridiculous. You're making the same wage/salary as 30 years ago? Of course not. It's inflation that has eroded the value of the dollar and causes higher prices. So, not only do we get screwed through inflation, we get to pay the interest on the debt created every time a new dollar is pulled out of the magician's hat.
 

Grandpapy

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Wages aren't flat, don't be ridiculous. You're making the same wage/salary as 30 years ago? Of course not. It's inflation that has eroded the value of the dollar and causes higher prices. So, not only do we get screwed through inflation, we get to pay the interest on the debt created every time a new dollar is pulled out of the magician's hat.
OK, I was able to keep 5% less then the year before while the company I work for made record profits of 20%. I have less to spend in my community, while my company invests in a Communist country.
 

canndo

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Wages aren't flat, don't be ridiculous. You're making the same wage/salary as 30 years ago? Of course not. It's inflation that has eroded the value of the dollar and causes higher prices. So, not only do we get screwed through inflation, we get to pay the interest on the debt created every time a new dollar is pulled out of the magician's hat.

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