LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

[AltarNation]

Kite, these par spectrum setups mess with your eyes even more than regular lights in my experience. My eyes show noticeable fatigue after just like five minutes under my fixture. They start to get that "cold burning" feeling.

I wear Shade 5 welding shades in my grow, and a hat to block the top-down penetration above the lenses. It is overkill, but my eyes feel like a million bucks when I'm done.

 

[gamestwin]

what kind of t5s do u have..please enlighten me bro..

 

[PetFlora]

Appreciate the offer falcon but I can probably manage it... maybe I can throw a ten dollar bill in the box for return shipping

Does anyone else find themselves wondering if Jeff is camping our thread? LOL. I know I'd be searching google for references to my name and company if someone said they were talking about it/me on a "horticultural message board" (lol, I used the same terminology when I emailed him.)

Jeff, show yourself

I may have given him the url several months ago when I first contacted him about a 660, but I doubt he has the time.

Anybody have any updates regarding their 660s? How red are they, are they performing as hoped...?

 

[PetFlora]

I want to get a badboy
But I only have a 4-2 tent so it would be a 6-8 bulb so it would be cheaper than 12 and can't fit it lol

But if I build my own I'm useing a Fulham for up to 12 belt so I can extend some bulbs off the ends at a angle for some side lighting

Haven't decided on what I'm going to do yet

My recommendation is no bigger than 4 bulb. This will allow you to drop between fixtures IR to be used ~ 1 hour after T5 is off. At this point I haven't found low powered IRs but someone has to be thinking about making them

 

[AltarNation]

I may have given him the url several months ago when I first contacted him about a 660, but I doubt he has the time.

Anybody have any updates regarding their 660s? How red are they, are they performing as hoped...?

I really can't gauge it. There's a grow log going and you can see the difference in development since I put them in, but I do not notice any notable change in regards to buds that are directly under the 660's versus the ones that aren't or anything. I really don't think a comparison of bulbs is even possible without dual grows setup and side by side comparisons.

 

[pedro420]

Thanks for the tips everyone

But if I decide to build one I'm going no less than 12 bulb ballest but I'm going to wire it kind of like a u but the sides won't be directly attached to the top set probly 6 on top then build arms on the side then 3 on each side or 6-6 shaped like a l and just have to rotate the girls every day

I got a few ideas on how I could do it I'm glad I'm the creative type if I realy like it I'm going to try and patent it to sell online or something maby even turn part of the body shop into a hydro store with all the shyt I got

 

[PetFlora]

BUT, anyone can configure just about any T5 set up they can think of using existing fixtures; 2/4/6/8/12 bulb fixtures are here now.

Example: 4/6/8/12 bulb fixture on top and 2 @ 2/4/6 bulb horizontally on each side, and 2 vertically as end caps. If you want to run them off one ac plug simply buy some daisy chain power cords

Am I missing something?

 

[pedro420]

But then you got all the cords to worried about the way I'm doing it you won't have the cords just one to the ballast and that's it the rest would be inside tubes that are flexible

Yes I know its not much different from daisy chains but it could be a good idea if the side lights are adjustable by themselves not like in a fixture where they are all attached togather I'll put some brackets inbetween so you can move the idividual bulbs to face how you want

Its hard to explain I have a complicated thought I wish I had a program to draw up ideas on

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

Day 50 of God Bud.

 

[kpmarine]

But then you got all the cords to worried about the way I'm doing it you won't have the cords just one to the ballast and that's it the rest would be inside tubes that are flexible

Yes I know its not much different from daisy chains but it could be a good idea if the side lights are adjustable by themselves not like in a fixture where they are all attached togather I'll put some brackets inbetween so you can move the idividual bulbs to face how you want

Its hard to explain I have a complicated thought I wish I had a program to draw up ideas on

You will have at least 3 ballasts. I'm fairly certain that 4 bulb ballasts are the best you'll find.

 

[pedro420]

Well I been online looking at Fulham ballasts I was on greentree Hydroponics website they are pretty cheap so I think that's where I'm going to get it from

But I can't findout what ballest is for how many bulbs does nebody know how to tell

 

[infinitalus]

@PetFlora,

There are pictures of the 660s posted within this thread.

I only have one 660 and 3 red suns in my 8 lamp fixture. The 660 is lamp #5 in my fixture. I havent seen a really noticable difference comparing sides, all of my buds are pretty frosty and on their third week of flowering. This morning when I looked, I seen the first orange/red hair on a couple of buds for one of my plants. Tomorrow Im going to feed them again.

I really hope that trichome development continues for extra stickiness. The UVB lamps I bought are helping the sugarleaves make additional resins. I hope it increases the CBN production enough to benefit my knee, time will tell.

 

[polyarcturus]

Well I been online looking at Fulham ballasts I was on greentree Hydroponics website they are pretty cheap so I think that's where I'm going to get it from

But I can't findout what ballest is for how many bulbs does nebody know how to tell

go to the fulham.com website under cutomer service tab lookup the wiring diagrams, but the number(product numbers) on the ballast tell you what bulbs they run or the wattages

 

[pedro420]

Thank you poly

I'll check it out and see what I can find

Would the t5 be the linear t5 ho

 

[polyarcturus]

yes./';,][][]'

 

[pedro420]

Well after searching and talking to Fulham tech team I found the rite ballast and everything

If anybody is interested in building your own the ballast is the - workhorse 7 - for a 4 ft 4bulb

So I'm going to build my own ballast and fixture
Averages price for a 6 bulb badboy =$160-180
Price for the 3 ballasts to make a 12 bulb =$144 plus material to make reflector and case it will be around $165 because I can do all the metal wood work myself at the body shop

 

[polyarcturus]

just thought i would let everyone know dr. fosters and smiths 10% discount code is 365/8659 good till the 29th

just put an order in for x4 florasun and 8in forceps got the free shipping and the 10% off order total was 47$, not bad.

oh yeah the forceps usualy go for 8+$ so buy em while they are 3$ trust me everybody needs some.

 

[pedro420]

Good looking out poly

Petco is haveing a sitewide up to 60% off sale untill Monday
Idk if you guys buy stuff from there but that's where I got my bulbs from cheap as hell but I go in the store and use the online prices so its cheaper cuz you don't pay shipping

 

[gamestwin]

If u COULD SIR..please PLEASE..list (IN ORDER) how u set this up? or does it matter as long as u have those lites in the same lamp?

 

[AltarNation]

If u COULD SIR..please PLEASE..list (IN ORDER) how u set this up? or does it matter as long as u have those lites in the same lamp?

Look, who are you speaking to? What are you asking?

If you use par spectrum bulbs, you should distribute the different colors as evenly as possible so as to spread and blend the spectrums. If that is even what you are asking.